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Old 08-01-2009, 03:24 AM
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My Trifecta Nightmare

Well...my Trifecta tuner kit arrived today. Hoping it will install smoothly turned out to be the complete opposite.

I charged the PDA and plug it under the steering wheel and waited. The bar loads half the size of my pinky fingernail and stops. No worries because the instructions state that it's normal for the bar to stop and move slow throughout the process. After about 30 mins the thing is still not moving and I'm afraid to remove it or turn the ignition off due to potentially hurting the PCM. I could not call Vince due to him being out of the office.

So I wait patiently and it is now 1hr 45mins. The security system enables and now my key is locked in the ignition. Now the lights on my car shut off. I said **** it and removed the cable and try to start the car but it won't start! My battery drained and my car had to be jumped. The car is running fine for now....I will contact vince on Monday to see what we can do. The device he sent me had a glitch and froze at the very beginning. I'm praying no damage was done my car.
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canned tunes FTL
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just restarted....those things have issues sometimes...but you should be alright...charge the battery back up and try and load it again. dont worry...it took 2 or 3 times for me to get that **** to work. those tuners get used by sooo many people that some are starting to go bad...but dont trip if it stops working restart and do it again
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and turn you auto lights off silly

If there isnt enough voltage in the battery it will also cause it to fail to load... dont be scared you didnt hurt nothing...

do it again and put a trickle charge on the battery if you have to!

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Old 08-01-2009, 05:17 AM
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dont worry bro, Vince backs up His stuff, also revhigh its not a canned tune. he can have his car tuned a few more times by his program to dial everything in. vince is known to work on the weekends and even show up at peoples house that are close obviously.
Old 08-01-2009, 05:29 AM
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So, when you call vince for a tune, he sends the machine to install it too? I know nothing about tuning but I'm getting ready to start my mods. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by SLIQ
Well...my Trifecta tuner kit arrived today. Hoping it will install smoothly turned out to be the complete opposite.

I charged the PDA and plug it under the steering wheel and waited. The bar loads half the size of my pinky fingernail and stops. No worries because the instructions state that it's normal for the bar to stop and move slow throughout the process. After about 30 mins the thing is still not moving and I'm afraid to remove it or turn the ignition off due to potentially hurting the PCM. I could not call Vince due to him being out of the office.

So I wait patiently and it is now 1hr 45mins. The security system enables and now my key is locked in the ignition. Now the lights on my car shut off. I said **** it and removed the cable and try to start the car but it won't start! My battery drained and my car had to be jumped. The car is running fine for now....I will contact vince on Monday to see what we can do. The device he sent me had a glitch and froze at the very beginning. I'm praying no damage was done my car.
I promise, as soon as Vince works all this out, the sick feeling in your stomach will be replaced by WOW I love my car again. Try calling him and rest assured you did make a good choice.
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Originally Posted by revhigh18
canned tunes FTL
QTF
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I don't know that I would be comfortable using a PDA. That could potentially be an issue. Send an email to Vince. He is very good about getting back to people, even on the weekends.
Old 08-01-2009, 11:04 AM
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I'll give it another try today. I'm too excited to wait until Monday but scared at the same time lol. I'll let you know what happens..
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**** happens. I'm sure you'll get it resolved. Good luck.
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Well I got some good news. Spoke with Vince today and got it resolved. He said the tuner looses the connection with the PCM at times and it stops it from loading.

The tune feels GREAT!. It drives so much smoother. There is zero delay off the line now. When you floor it the car launches like how its suppose to. GM should be ashamed of themselves for putting that POS tune on these cars.

Trifecta you get
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Good to see that everything was resolved so quickly. I definitely need to get a Trifecta tune but I need to get all my bolt ons on first.
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Originally Posted by SLIQ
Well I got some good news. Spoke with Vince today and got it resolved. He said the tuner looses the connection with the PCM at times and it stops it from loading.

The tune feels GREAT!. It drives so much smoother. There is zero delay off the line now. When you floor it the car launches like how its suppose to. GM should be ashamed of themselves for putting that POS tune on these cars.

Trifecta you get
Told you so
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Originally Posted by SLIQ
Well...my Trifecta tuner kit arrived today. Hoping it will install smoothly turned out to be the complete opposite.

I charged the PDA and plug it under the steering wheel and waited. The bar loads half the size of my pinky fingernail and stops. No worries because the instructions state that it's normal for the bar to stop and move slow throughout the process. After about 30 mins the thing is still not moving and I'm afraid to remove it or turn the ignition off due to potentially hurting the PCM. I could not call Vince due to him being out of the office.

So I wait patiently and it is now 1hr 45mins. The security system enables and now my key is locked in the ignition. Now the lights on my car shut off. I said **** it and removed the cable and try to start the car but it won't start! My battery drained and my car had to be jumped. The car is running fine for now....I will contact vince on Monday to see what we can do. The device he sent me had a glitch and froze at the very beginning. I'm praying no damage was done my car.
no damage is done. just retune again....
if it freezes, make sure the bar doesnt mve for at least 15 mins. if it doesnt, restart the process. GM fixed the whole ECM being fried by tuning software issue that was so infamous on their 90's cars (and early 2000's)

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canned tunes FTL
Originally Posted by glen229
QTF
its not a canned tune
Old 08-01-2009, 06:54 PM
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i had the same issue. but i didnt wait no hour. you have to restart it. shouldnt wait any longer then 15 to 20 min. Just stop it and restart it.
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Yes, it takes a little patience. I have been working with Vince a couple of weeks on my SC build and we just continue to get things going in the right direction. I believe I am finished with the tune now. Just have to datalog and get the ok.
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I like the way the car moves but I may have Vince make some tweaks. My baby needs to pull a little harder
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I like the way the car moves but I may have Vince make some tweaks. My baby needs to pull a little harder

sell ur boltons like me and buy one of the many turbo kits people are selling. then get vince to tune u again!!
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Originally Posted by Zdeuce4
sell ur boltons like me and buy one of the many turbo kits people are selling. then get vince to tune u again!!
LOL...I'm saving up for the ZZP Turbo kit for next year. I just need to find someone who can install it.
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I have the Trifecta tune myself and let me just say for a heavy car (the HHR) the tune changes are night/day difference. No delay on launch. I swear a couple of time that 1/2 sec delay could hurt someone. Mileage is a lot better than before too (at least 2mpg) than stock so that definitely offsets the cost of the tune. As for the mail tuned system, I have done a lot of tuning in the past in my old car (the GP), I decided to fork over the extra $$ and get the cable and use my laptop. From your experience, I am glad I did. Have fun that tune man!
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Originally Posted by timberwarp
I have the Trifecta tune myself and let me just say for a heavy car (the HHR) the tune changes are night/day difference. No delay on launch. I swear a couple of time that 1/2 sec delay could hurt someone. Mileage is a lot better than before too (at least 2mpg) than stock so that definitely offsets the cost of the tune. As for the mail tuned system, I have done a lot of tuning in the past in my old car (the GP), I decided to fork over the extra $$ and get the cable and use my laptop. From your experience, I am glad I did. Have fun that tune man!
i dont think the HHR is a whole lot heavier than the balt.
Its the same platform after all..
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Originally Posted by glen229
QTF
well since we're close enough.. i'll put my "canned tune" procharge build against your m62 build
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