General Inquiry: Procharging a Cobalt

[victory_red_SS]

Originally Posted by elecblue06

the F series blowers are used on 1000 hp drag cars lol and the P1 should in theory gve me better low end but who knows.. i'm going to get the 2.55 pulley on my c-1 first lol and see what happends

rod

C-1
7"
675
150-325
1000
24
3.5"
2.75"
4.25"
2.5"
2.12
80,000
4.70:1
Yes
Yes
3 oz

P-1SC-1
9"
825
200-450
1200
32
3.75"
3.37"
5.25"
3"
2.62"
65,000
4.10:1
Yes
Yes
6 oz

F-1
9"
1050
300-500
1525
38
3.75"
3.75"
6.0"
3"
2.62"
70,000
5.4:1
Yes
Yes
4 oz

wtf lol maybe i'll have to go with a

D-1SC
9"
925
300-500
1400
32
3.75"
3.37"
6.25"
3"
2.62"
62,000
4.10:1
Yes
Yes
6 oz

Then there is this one which reflects my build more accurately, although we are looking at only 1,000hp at the back wheels....

F-3A-117
12"
1900
500-750
2800
40
5.5"
4.61"
6.75"
4"
3.59"
66,000
6.24:1
Yes
Yes
4 oz.

And being the type of guy I am I would say do this...

D-1SC
9"
925
300-500
1400
32
3.75"
3.37"
6.25"
3"
2.62"
62,000
4.10:1
Yes
Yes
6 oz

[roadrage06]

Whenever I get the C5, I'm doing an F-series, go big or go home. I'm not stopping until I hit 10's, and after I do that, the horsepower war is on.

[victory_red_SS]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

Whenever I get the C5, I'm doing an F-series, go big or go home. I'm not stopping until I hit 10's, and after I do that, the horsepower war is on.

I totally agree which is why I plan on hitting 10's in my Cobalt, 2 seconds before I hit 8's

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by victory_red_SS

I totally agree which is why I plan on hitting 10's in my Cobalt, 2 seconds before I hit 8's

lol, nice.

It's always been my dream to have a 10-second street driven car. Why? because most supercars do low 11's. So, if I can trip the lights at 10.6, I'm spanking Lambo's and making the fastest production Ferrari cry.

So, that's why I'm specifically seeking out 10's, that's as high of an ET I can have and still meet my goal, and I'd say it'd be easier to make a 10-second car street legal than an 9-second. So, it's not that I won't try for lower one day, just not right away.

[elecblue06]

Originally Posted by victory_red_SS

Then there is this one which reflects my build more accurately, although we are looking at only 1,000hp at the back wheels....

F-3A-117
12"
1900
500-750
2800
40
5.5"
4.61"
6.75"
4"
3.59"
66,000
6.24:1
Yes
Yes
4 oz.

And being the type of guy I am I would say do this...

D-1SC
9"
925
300-500
1400
32
3.75"
3.37"
6.25"
3"
2.62"
62,000
4.10:1
Yes
Yes
6 oz

i just asked for price quote for the p1sc and the d1sc from my supplier

[victory_red_SS]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

lol, nice.

It's always been my dream to have a 10-second street driven car. Why? because most supercars do low 11's. So, if I can trip the lights at 10.6, I'm spanking Lambo's and making the fastest production Ferrari cry.

So, that's why I'm specifically seeking out 10's, that's as high of an ET I can have and still meet my goal, and I'd say it'd be easier to make a 10-second car street legal than an 9-second. So, it's not that I won't try for lower one day, just not right away.

There is always time to go for 'even faster' later on unless you are old like me and have a wife who won't let you get away with this more than once.

I like the idea of spanking supercars.

Originally Posted by elecblue06

i just asked for price quote for the p1sc and the d1sc from my supplier

As I read that, one thing came to my mind....MUAHHAHA

[elecblue06]

Originally Posted by victory_red_SS

There is always time to go for 'even faster' later on unless you are old like me and have a wife who won't let you get away with this more than once.

I like the idea of spanking supercars.



As I read that, one thing came to my mind....MUAHHAHA

haha i have to get dyno numbers on the c1 with the 2.55 pulley first but then i'm sure it wouldnt be too hard to sell my blower to someone

and i'd probably only have to push like 5-6 psi on that to amount to 11 psi on the c1 lol

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by victory_red_SS

There is always time to go for 'even faster' later on unless you are old like me and have a wife who won't let you get away with this more than once.

I like the idea of spanking supercars.



As I read that, one thing came to my mind....MUAHHAHA

I will be married when this all goes down, yes. But she seems to be very supportive. She surprisingly understands the difference between a hobby and a passion/dream. And even though others can only comprehend a car as being only a means to get from point A to point B, she understands, that what is relevant is how it is viewed in my eyes. And she knows it's a huge dream of mine. As big as an Astronaut wanting to get to the moon one day. It's just what I'm passionate about.

[elecblue06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfradL3zz50

if you wanted to go straight to the ss/sc intake manifold picture that but with it connecting to the manifold instead of going down into the front of the car lol

and as far as the piping on that setup.. well that wasn't optimal at all lol

[NewBaltOnTheBlock]

Originally Posted by elecblue06

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfradL3zz50

if you wanted to go straight to the ss/sc intake manifold picture that but with it connecting to the manifold instead of going down into the front of the car lol

and as far as the piping on that setup.. well that wasn't optimal at all lol

i would love to be that test car tho...but im in NC :'( ....ive been following this for a while...and was trying to decide once i graduated from college if i would go turbo or TVS...but i see there is a best of both worlds.... any plans for a kit soon?? and could i get any pics to see what i could be working with piping wise... and how hard was the tuning??

[08slatecobalt]

elec, what is he looking for from someone being the test car? I would like details...possibly interested. Let me know

[elecblue06]

Originally Posted by 08slatecobalt

elec, what is he looking for from someone being the test car? I would like details...possibly interested. Let me know

just a cobalt basically there's no specifics i mean we have numbers for the 2.2 and 2.4 it's just a matter of having the piping routing for the balt

we'd prefer to have it be close to someone that has it installed so they can help since they kinda know what they're doing lol, and after checking you're only 1:45 -2 hrs from me so you would be close enough for me to help

NewBaltOnTheBlock

the piping wasn't too hard it was measure twice cut once and leave more then you need lol when i did m y test fitment i cut all the piping and installed everything in like 5 hours

when i did the actual install it took about 5 hours because i changed some things and had to do injectors plugs and a few other things..

tuning vince at trifecta did, and he didn't think it was too bad

[schamsy]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

They have incredible gains that rival turbocharged cars on stock motors (usually 50-60% gains), for usually less than the cost of a turbo kit. They have better heat efficiency than turbos too. So, basically, the instant torque of a supercharger, without the heat soak.

Incorrect, belt driven will never be MORE efficient than exhaust driven power adders. Remember it takes alot of pwoer to spin that blower at high rpms. Turbo is going to be more efficient and in the end cheaper.

[elecblue06]

Originally Posted by schamsy

Incorrect, belt driven will never be MORE efficient than exhaust driven power adders. Remember it takes alot of pwoer to spin that blower at high rpms. Turbo is going to be more efficient and in the end cheaper.

no one said they it's MORE efficent then turboing

he said rival.. ie give a challange to

and it doesnt take much hp to spin the procharger... i can spin it easily with my hand...

procharers DO have cooler intake charges and since they have they're own oil supply (usually) are easier to install

they DONT have instant torque (supposedly rotrex blowers have more low end torque) but they do have a great top end and with tuning and the right setup can have decent low end torque you're not going to have the low end of an m62 but you will have a top end similar to a turbo car