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2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:18 PM   #181
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no links as the company is in the process of testing it. It's dejon lol. I can't keep my mouth shut lol
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:03 AM   #182
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dejon is crap, cheaper products, worse quality.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:31 AM   #183
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dejon is crap, cheaper products, worse quality.
I have nothing but good things to say about my dejon products.... The service and personality of the owner on the other hand is crap!
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:26 AM   #184
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dejon is crap, cheaper products, worse quality.
really? name one product on the ss/tc thats crap.
intake? everyone's is crap
downpipe? its just a metal pipe.
boost piping? i have had it for over 15,000 miles and works great

so seriously if you have an opinion but have no facts then don't talk.
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:31 PM   #185
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really? name one product on the ss/tc thats crap.
intake? everyone's is crap
downpipe? its just a metal pipe.
boost piping? i have had it for over 15,000 miles and works great

so seriously if you have an opinion but have no facts then don't talk.
The only way anybody is ever going to be able to realistically compare aftermarket parts is to have one of each part from each manufacturer lined up and inspected by one independent tester then installed on one test vehicle and run on the same dyno and then around town on the same roads for a week. Each part going through the same set of inspections and tests. Then and ONLY then would you have an HONEST comparison.

Till then "to each his own".

I happen to like my CIA stuff. Enough so that I have ALL their stuff. CAI, Boost tubing and down pipe. After buying the first piece, the catted down pipe, and installing it I decided to stick with CIA. Each and every piece seems to be well designed and manufactured using what I accept as the best materials. Fit and finish of each part is nothing short of beautiful. The under hood parts definately compliment my engine compartment and the down pipe not only improves the performance but sounds GREAT. The prices are not the cheapest around but I learned a LONG time ago through trial and a lot of errors (expensive errors) that cheapest is NOT usually the best. Neither is the most expensive. When you GET what you PAY for you got a good deal. Then you have to consider the PEOPLE you deal with at CIA. Dan is easy to talk to, communicates well and will make you feel like one of the family. He's been in the aftermarket business a while and knows the business.

P.T. Barnum said it best. "There's an ass for EVERY seat". Take it from there!
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:27 PM   #186
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really? name one product on the ss/tc thats crap.
intake? everyone's is crap
downpipe? its just a metal pipe.
boost piping? i have had it for over 15,000 miles and works great

so seriously if you have an opinion but have no facts then don't talk.
With the exception of AEM's Silicone elbow blunder, and the SRIs that seem to be very difficult to get dialed in because of vastly fluctuating IATs. It just takes some tuning to get everything running much better with most if not all intakes.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:36 PM   #187
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With the exception of AEM's Silicone elbow blunder, and the SRIs that seem to be very difficult to get dialed in because of vastly fluctuating IATs. It just takes some tuning to get everything running much better with most if not all intakes.
you said it perfectly... i love how everyone says intakes are crap.. however, if you have a good tuner that knows what he is doing, that intake will actually help you out.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:52 PM   #188
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you said it perfectly... i love how everyone says intakes are crap.. however, if you have a good tuner that knows what he is doing, that intake will actually help you out.
As long as your intake does not collapse at high levels of Vac. Because of the longer length of the CAIs though there can be a reduction in low end and midrange even when tuned for the intake. Tofu dynoed his car before and after his Injen intake and it gained 10 whp up top but lost power in the midrange.
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