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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:44 PM
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Synapse Motorsport Cobalt Development

We just received our Cobalt SS/TC today from the dealer. We bought this Cobalt because we saw a platform the has a lot of potential with some aftermarket development. With such a new platform there are a lot of challenges to overcome and we are eager to dig into developing high quality parts. We will start with the bolt ons everyone is looking for such as a downpipe, intercooler piping, upgraded intercoolers, etc. We dont plan on stopping there though, we intend to develop upgraded turbo kits as well for more power.

So with 37 miles on the clock we put the cobalt on the dyno to get a baseline before any modifications. The powerband is very impressive to say the least. The car seems to be underrated in power from the factory. The car layed down 262 ftlbs at the wheels, and 240whp.

Here are some pictures of our car, as well as a dynograph.







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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Very nice, keep us posted on the parts
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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262 at the wheels?!?!?!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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262 at the wheels?!?!?!
torque
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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And on a dynopak. They read...different.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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240 Whp
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 07:27 PM
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very nice! now if my damn car would get here already!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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nice numbers ........
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:13 PM
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it doesnt hit the 260 hp mark that was said doesnt that mean that its over rated
lets see wat it does after break-in

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And on a dynopak. They read...different.
that they do people need to learn that

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Remember street tuner challenge? The s/c cobalt laid down 212 whp stock on the same dyno.
So I would say that these numbers are pretty accurate.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Synapse? As in synapse engineering? If so I'm running your WG and BOV on my custom turbo cobalt.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BACK2GM
Remember street tuner challenge? The s/c cobalt laid down 212 whp stock on the same dyno.
So I would say that these numbers are pretty accurate.
Unless it was at the same shop on the same day, you can't compare them. I've seen Dynopaks read high, low, and inbetween. You can make them say whatever you want. I'd like to see a stock SS/SC or something as a reference point on the same dyno, just for fun.

Either way, the SS/TC should be near that area, just sayin. 240whp is pretty close to what I would expect. The low end torque curve is very impressive as well.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1
Unless it was at the same shop on the same day, you can't compare them. I've seen Dynopaks read high, low, and inbetween. You can make them say whatever you want. I'd like to see a stock SS/SC or something as a reference point on the same dyno, just for fun.

Either way, the SS/TC should be near that area, just sayin. 240whp is pretty close to what I would expect. The low end torque curve is very impressive as well.
Yep yep I just brought it up in case people were curious about what a stock
s/c would put down on a dynopack even if they werent on the same day or dyno.
better than nothing I guess.....
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:15 PM
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well the 260 hp was crank from the SAE certified testing. I'm impressed its 260 tq to the wheels too, impressive, lets get the aftermarket flowing for these cars. I still wanna see numbers from a dynojet or a mustang dyno. Whats average hp/tq reading for the stage two guys?
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Synapse? As in synapse engineering? If so I'm running your WG and BOV on my custom turbo cobalt.
different co brotha
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:20 PM
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Sweet its nice to see a Developer go out and buy a brand new car to start working on.
As for it being on a dynopak who cares, its what they have to do testing on, which will help them
progress the cars aftermarket future.

when it comes to sc vs tc once again why bother with the mud throwing.

yes the SC people are proud of their cars, as the TC people will be as well.

each side needs to have respect for each other. One day a SC will line up with a TC and they will have it out. of course they will then need to post videos or be banned.

my 2 cents...
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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i believe we have had an ion redline on the dyno before, im gonna see if i can grab the graph from that as something of a reference.

every dyno is going to read different. its just a reference value to gauge how each change makes a difference. the numbers themselves dont hold much value without something to compare them to.

We are a different company than synapse engineering.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SynapseTurbo
i believe we have had an ion redline on the dyno before, im gonna see if i can grab the graph from that as something of a reference.

every dyno is going to read different. its just a reference value to gauge how each change makes a difference. the numbers themselves dont hold much value without something to compare them to.

We are a different company than synapse engineering.
exactly!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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Hey Synapse, want to dyno my SS S/C for comparison to the T/C? I'm sure that will shut up the naysayers BTW, I like what you did with brians Prelude. Man that thing was fun to drive. And quality craftsmanship, as usual from Synapse.

For anyone doubting Synapse.. this place is nothing but high quality work. They know what they're talking about when it comes to turbocharging, trust me.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chris88z24
Hey Synapse, want to dyno my SS S/C for comparison to the T/C? I'm sure that will shut up the naysayers BTW, I like what you did with brians Prelude. Man that thing was fun to drive. And quality craftsmanship, as usual from Synapse.

For anyone doubting Synapse.. this place is nothing but high quality work. They know what they're talking about when it comes to turbocharging, trust me.
I don't think anyone is doubting Synapse at all. The statement was about the dynopack.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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sure chris give me a call at the shop tomorrow and we will work something out if you want.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rukkee
I don't think anyone is doubting Synapse at all. The statement was about the dynopack.
I'm just saying it now to get it overwith because I know people will do it.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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sure chris give me a call at the shop tomorrow and we will work something out if you want.
Alright.. tomorrow's looking kind of crappy since I have a ton of stuff to take care of, and then work. How about Thursday or Friday? I think it would be nice to compare the two cars (on the same dyno) to see the gains of the turbo 'balt vs. the supercharged model.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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the dyno dynamics is a good dyno. it is also a load bearing dyno like the dynapack. very good for tuning.

chris i didnt necessarily mean it had to be tomorrow, just if you wanted to call to work out a good time to get it on the dyno we would be more than willing. Free of charge.
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