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2.0L LNF Performance Tech 260hp and 260 lb-ft of torque Turbocharged tuner version.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:32 PM   #37
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i get slippage from 3000-3500 in 3rd, after that it holds fine.
We need a CSRT 4 sized snail that bolts directly to stock parts, something that still spools relatively early for driveability, and at the same time keeps peak power near redline.

with the stock snail, you get unusable low end, and less than stellar top end.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:34 PM   #38
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I need a video camera lol. Or it would have already been done.
Sorry, as much as I like going back and forth with you I meant for the OP to take an actual vid to see what this Trifecta tune does. LOL!

And to the people saying, this guy is doing something for the community etc.. what is that exactly? Running a tune that no one wants to run? Running a tune guaranteed to fry your stock clutch? Vince could just run this tune himself, he doesnt need other people to run it for anything. OP wanted to say he runs 30psi, now he has it. enjoy...
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:45 PM   #39
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Sorry, as much as I like going back and forth with you I meant for the OP to take an actual vid to see what this Trifecta tune does. LOL!

And to the people saying, this guy is doing something for the community etc.. what is that exactly? Running a tune that no one wants to run? Running a tune guaranteed to fry your stock clutch? Vince could just run this tune himself, he doesnt need other people to run it for anything. OP wanted to say he runs 30psi, now he has it. enjoy...
you obviously no very little about testing products if you think testing it on one application is acceptable.

how many verations do you have? people say clutches hold and some say they dont, its best to test it on a few vehicles then just one.

If you acctualy thinking testing something once is better then many times your very high right now.
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there will never be a stroker kit for the LNF because its already at 16-1 compresson ratio, any more and the direct injection will never work, the cyl pressure will be too high, unless took out the spark plug and coverted it to diesel.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:50 PM   #40
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Well if this is for eventually going big turbo, why would you want to test it on the stock clutch, when you're going to be upgrading anyway? Seems like kind of a waste.
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:52 PM   #41
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i get slippage from 3000-3500 in 3rd, after that it holds fine.
We need a CSRT 4 sized snail that bolts directly to stock parts, something that still spools relatively early for driveability, and at the same time keeps peak power near redline.

with the stock snail, you get unusable low end, and less than stellar top end.
we need exactly that..a bolt on replacement turbo like the srt-4's have...it will just take interest and money in order for a manufacture to notice this and start producing them.

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Well if this is for eventually going big turbo, why would you want to test it on the stock clutch, when you're going to be upgrading anyway? Seems like kind of a waste.
i made 331 whp and 393 wtq with a downpipe intake and tune. stock clutch holds 100% fine. thats why we test things...when it breaks..we will then know the threshhold of these vehicles.

am i expecting something to break? yup..can i afford to fix it if it breaks..yup..so i dont understand the issue? people think running a aftermarket tune instead of the stage kit will break their car also.
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there will never be a stroker kit for the LNF because its already at 16-1 compresson ratio, any more and the direct injection will never work, the cyl pressure will be too high, unless took out the spark plug and coverted it to diesel.

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Old 09-08-2009, 01:55 PM   #42
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Old 09-08-2009, 01:57 PM   #43
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I mean I don't get the point in testing the stock clutch when you won't want to use that when you go big turbo, just seems unnecessary. Who's complaining about not having money to fix their car?
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guys keep in mind im runing 235 radials.... they r pretty hard to get loose.... everyone tells me the same thing but when i do a 40 roll all their mounth are close! i will make a vid of me pushing the 30 psi right with someone on the car to film it...

btw thanks projeckt for defending the people that are doind a BETA tune so we can help vince do the work and tune it right! this tune is way better than the 22psi tune... performance wise, YES, the turbo will blow eventually and thats why i want it... push the turbo and then get a nice gt28 on it... those are my plans! i will do a vid tomorrow since i work today... hopefully it wont rain....

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Well if this is for eventually going big turbo, why would you want to test it on the stock clutch, when you're going to be upgrading anyway? Seems like kind of a waste.
for people that dont want to spend 1500 on a kit plus a clutch! so we can tell them "well the clutch aparently is good till 400wtq and probably 350whp!"
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Old 09-08-2009, 02:00 PM   #45
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you obviously no very little about testing products if you think testing it on one application is acceptable.

how many verations do you have? people say clutches hold and some say they dont, its best to test it on a few vehicles then just one.

If you acctualy thinking testing something once is better then many times your very high right now.
I am very high...what's your point?

Posting a vid of a tuned car that doesnt break the tires loose in the RAIN even is not a good selling point for them. You obviously know very little about what these cars can do with a GOOD tune...
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try breaking those
http://www.gripston.com/products/maxxis-ma-z1-victra-z1

this is a vid just to let you know how hard my 40 roll is... this is a 300C SRT-8 SUPERCHARGED with full bolt ons gears and a tune.... he did beat me but at 70-80 miles is when he passed me....

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...alt_703530.htm

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Sorry, as much as I like going back and forth with you I meant for the OP to take an actual vid to see what this Trifecta tune does. LOL!

And to the people saying, this guy is doing something for the community etc.. what is that exactly? Running a tune that no one wants to run? Running a tune guaranteed to fry your stock clutch? Vince could just run this tune himself, he doesnt need other people to run it for anything. OP wanted to say he runs 30psi, now he has it. enjoy...
The infiniboost tune is still in ongoing testing phases for Vince.. He actually doesn't recommend running the tune due to the excessive boost and wear one the turbo, but for folks who are willing to try it, he is more than willing to let you at no extra cost, and at your own risk of course. I currently use a mild version of the infiniboost (holding around 24psi) in an attempt to not completely blow out my turbo just yet..

He is actually running and testing the infiniboost in his HHR SS will great results, but he has to take into consideration all the veriables in vehicles throughout the rest of the country, hense the test mules willing to give the tune a go..

I'm personally not exactly sure why this has evolved into such a big competition amongst tuners and such.. Trifecta has it's definite benefits and so does HPT obviously. There are always going to be different oppinions on the matter, so why even argue..
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I'll try and take some video today....
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I'll try and take some video today....
haha good..i want to see these.

i love how the hptuner guys in here (blueberry, term and others) have a positive view on infiniboost (obviously their are some errors with it running on stock turbo, which we have addressed) but they see it as a step forward in the right direction...where the hahn nutswingers and bumfuck backyard turbo guys seem to hate progression for our cars.


All i can say is, it put down more horsepower and better track times then the bumfuck backyard turbo build. so obviously its doing something right.

and if you want..ill go out tonight..even tho its raining..and ill break the tires in 3rd if you wish.
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The infiniboost tune is still in ongoing testing phases for Vince.. He actually doesn't recommend running the tune due to the excessive boost and wear one the turbo, but for folks who are willing to try it, he is more than willing to let you at no extra cost, and at your own risk of course. I currently use a mild version of the infiniboost (holding around 24psi) in an attempt to not completely blow out my turbo just yet..

He is actually running and testing the infiniboost in his HHR SS will great results, but he has to take into consideration all the veriables in vehicles throughout the rest of the country, hense the test mules willing to give the tune a go..

I'm personally not exactly sure why this has evolved into such a big competition amongst tuners and such.. Trifecta has it's definite benefits and so does HPT obviously. There are always going to be different oppinions on the matter, so why even argue..


good shit!
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haha good..i want to see these.

i love how the hptuner guys in here (blueberry, term and others) have a positive view on infiniboost (obviously their are some errors with it running on stock turbo, which we have addressed) but they see it as a step forward in the right direction...where the hahn nutswingers and bumfuck backyard turbo guys seem to hate progression for our cars.


All i can say is, it put down more horsepower and better track times then the bumfuck backyard turbo build. so obviously its doing something right.

and if you want..ill go out tonight..even tho its raining..and ill break the tires in 3rd if you wish.

Just single me out....I come in late and make a comment and you direct your hate at me. I make the same comment as Term did but he's cool. Have a good day... So sorry I pointed out the tune cant spin the tires in the fucking rain LOL...

Im also a guy doing everything myself, so rag on me all you want, Im the easy target.
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I'm on a 24psi Trifecta tune and I spin all the way through 2nd gear from a roll when it's 90 degrees and sunny outside. Does anyone want to put my tune down?
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Just single me out....I come in late and make a comment and you direct your hate at me. I make the same comment as Term did but he's cool. Have a good day... So sorry I pointed out the tune cant spin the tires in the fucking rain LOL...

Im also a guy doing everything myself, so rag on me all you want, Im the easy target.
so much for trying to cool the waters...
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Just single me out....I come in late and make a comment and you direct your hate at me. I make the same comment as Term did but he's cool. Have a good day... So sorry I pointed out the tune cant spin the tires in the fucking rain LOL...

Im also a guy doing everything myself, so rag on me all you want, Im the easy target.
its funny how some people can forget the stuff they say so quickly...here is acctualy where YOU took the first shot AT ME and the company i work for

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Sorry, as much as I like going back and forth with you I meant for the OP to take an actual vid to see what this Trifecta tune does. LOL!

And to the people saying, this guy is doing something for the community etc.. what is that exactly? Running a tune that no one wants to run? Running a tune guaranteed to fry your stock clutch? Vince could just run this tune himself, he doesnt need other people to run it for anything. OP wanted to say he runs 30psi, now he has it. enjoy...
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