pjk91

- cams $650
- intake $200
- header $400
- exhaust $500
- vector tune $400
Total: Roughly $2200 for 50whp? Or $44/hp

Think it's possible?

Brandon97Z

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yes it is, as i have the same plan

HackAbuse

go for it, and let us know

rally

Have fun

g5mike

200 plus yes, the protype cams we are doing is probably on 25whp aloneBTW you forgot the downpipe and a throttlebody would not hurt

IonNinja

50whp N/A for 2200? I'd be very surprised...

better have one hell of a tune and very some aggressive cams

UpOnGaMe

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we left out lighten flywheels, pulleys, theres alot of mods out there n good ol' take out the back seats..........

07LSC

if you want 50whp outta cams and supporting mods the cams are gonna have to be big enough to need valvetrain upgrades so add about $300 more to the list for valvetrain components. then if you want more power you can p&p the head and get much better numbers from the cams and if the port job is nice youll have a smoother power curve too.

Eddie

dont forget fuel system, stock fuel system wont handle a 50whp increase thats like 80 hp that the engine is gaining.

Tomtwtwtw

Exactly what I was thinking - although I would think the stock injectors from a ss/sc would provide enough fuel, and be fairly cheap if you get a slightly used set. Not sure on how easy the swap is, though.

Roadrunner

this is one of those topics that will inevitably cause an argument, whether or not its possible...watch, once certain "experts" post that it isnt possible, you'll have half of the people in this thread changing their minds.

just post the results, i want to see someone post the finished product instead of talking about it. i 100% agree that it is possible.

Brandon97Z

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Yeah i'm planning on using ss/sc injectors. From what i've gathered all ecotecs use the same type just different lbs/hr. And with tuning i'm sure the injectors would work fine with the ecu.

CobaltKids

Hmm I think $2,200 is a lot of money for 50whp. But im 17 and dont have a lot of moohlah so thats probably why. If you do it let us know how it goes!

8cd03gro

50whp is ALOT. I wouldn't say it is possible like a few in this thread have until we see numbers. it certainly could be, but there are always surprises. 50whp is optimistic imo, i think with full bolt ons, cams, and supporting mods you may see around those gains, but not with the suggested mods by the thread starter. this is just my opinion tho, and i could be wrong.

Cobalt_Supercharged

I'm not sure if the computer was programed to handle the larger injectors is what I meant. The SS S/C is only programmed to handle the stock 34 lb-hr and the the Stage 42.5 lb-hr. Intense and others make the 60 lb-hr injectors work by changing the VE table to trick the computer. It works, but it's not the most accurate way of tuning.

Just be sure to do a few stock pulls for a baseline figure and then a few after the mods to see the differance.

SpecialK

Don't forget using a thinner headgasket. (If you can even get one for the 2.4) THat slight bumping up in compression will help bigtime. :thumbsup

celicacobalt

then if you get bored after that and want some more power, get the hahn intake manifold and p&P the head up grade the fuel system and get some higher compression pistons.

NJHK

Well, if he's just going as far as replacing the camshafts, he's not taking off the cylinder head where there would be a need to change the headgasket.

NJHK

To the original poster, why not just use HP Tuners and dyno tune yourself?

g5mike

mmmwwwwwaaaaaahhhhhh CAMS

pjk91

HP tuners is the first thing on my list. Before ANY of that

Tomtwtwtw

I would think tuning, higher compression pistons (somewhere between 11.0 and 11.5 maybe?), and a bumped redline will get you at or near TSX levels, and from there you can still do bolt-ons and cams. I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, but I think you may go over budget if you're set on $2,200.

GTP

I think with JBP cams, the 3" inch DP/header combo, 3 inch exhaust, intake and tuning
2.4s will be running much faster than TSXs (unless they have a ton of $$$ into them or are FI) .. I ran a A spec TSX with at least an intake and exhaust and he faded pretty quickly even with my limited mods. I think they are a bit heavier than 2.4s. But none the less, good competition for us.

Tomtwtwtw

Yeah, they are bigger and heavier, so you shouldn't have to make as much power as them to beat them. I was just referring to power output, though, as their 2.4s are putting out 205 at the crank.

Jackalope

I don't think you'd need cams to hit the numbers you want. An intake, header, high flow cat and cat back exhaust should get you right around halfway there then do some port work and the tune and you'd probly see somewhere in the 40 HP gain range.