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05-10-2011, 02:27 PM
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I drive a bit out of my way to fill up BUT if you do a blend tune it will last a decent amount for you. We saw minimal gain going from 1:1 to 2:1, so you could really make it last with a E30 blend and still get the power boost
Stir it up.. I haven't seen any TF customers post a over 360whp graph on E like we have.
I drive a bit out of my way to fill up BUT if you do a blend tune it will last a decent amount for you. We saw minimal gain going from 1:1 to 2:1, so you could really make it last with a E30 blend and still get the power boost
Stir it up.. I haven't seen any TF customers post a over 360whp graph on E like we have.
and I agree.. stir things up and post the numbers..
05-10-2011, 02:36 PM
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1. My car doesn't have to be magic. We learn new ways to make more power. That is our job. I notice that you ignored my statement that I trapped 119mph right after I dyno'd 356 on our dyno.
2. Yes, I have seen stock LNF Cobalts make 260 on Dynojets.
3. Now you are stating that the difference between Mustang and Dynojet is 10-12%, but you have simply moved into the next topic that you still have a lot to learn about. As I'm sure you know, Mustang dynos require vehicle weight to be entered. You may also know that the number that you enter affects the hp numbers. Because of this, lighter cars do not take as much of a hit on a Mustang dyno as a heavier car. While a 4000 lb car might lose 10-15% by going from a Dynojet to a Mustang, a 300 lb car might only lose 6-10% This is something that is rarely discussed, but should be.
2. Yes, I have seen stock LNF Cobalts make 260 on Dynojets.
3. Now you are stating that the difference between Mustang and Dynojet is 10-12%, but you have simply moved into the next topic that you still have a lot to learn about. As I'm sure you know, Mustang dynos require vehicle weight to be entered. You may also know that the number that you enter affects the hp numbers. Because of this, lighter cars do not take as much of a hit on a Mustang dyno as a heavier car. While a 4000 lb car might lose 10-15% by going from a Dynojet to a Mustang, a 300 lb car might only lose 6-10% This is something that is rarely discussed, but should be.
In all seriousness though you have more important things to do than argue with me about something so stupid. You have a customer who needs assistance. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...update-250276/
05-10-2011, 05:29 PM
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I am well aware that vehicle weight is entered into the mustang dynos and although you are correct a lighter car will loose less power vs a heavier car the percentage of lost power will be about the same. Say the 3000 lb car looses 30 whp which is 10%. A identical car (engine gearing, etc) except weighing 6000 lb car would loose about 60 whp which is still 10%. Basically what this all comes down to is that mass and kinetic energy have a direct relationship double the mass takes double the energy to make it accelerate.
In all seriousness though you have more important things to do than argue with me about something so stupid. You have a customer who needs assistance. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...update-250276/
In all seriousness though you have more important things to do than argue with me about something so stupid. You have a customer who needs assistance. https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/gene...update-250276/
As far as that customer, oh wait, he's not a customer. He just kept parts that he got from us for free...
05-10-2011, 05:50 PM
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Weight differential on the street as far as power goes (every 100 lbs is roughly about 1/10th in the quarter or 1 car length with the same whp), we all know is about right, but this is the first time I've ever heard different vehicle weight on a dyno effecting power results?
Someone want to elaborate more.
Someone want to elaborate more.
05-10-2011, 05:54 PM
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Are we factoring in the adden tension from strapping down too? And Matt I know you all make quality parts and have been a great help to the development of LNF performance parts, but ya'll need to work on the BBB score... an F is unsat. I am not sure if I can even refer people to you all any more after seeing that.
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05-10-2011, 09:24 PM
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05-10-2011, 09:36 PM
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thats in my ab mod and tune only car, look to the left. I have 2 SS/TC's, what have you done with a tune and AB mod only car?
Also judging by all your posts you are some guy with a fast car, small ***** and a big mouth and you just run it on the forums to make yourself feel better. You have nothing to add to this thread, please go troll elsewhere.
Also judging by all your posts you are some guy with a fast car, small ***** and a big mouth and you just run it on the forums to make yourself feel better. You have nothing to add to this thread, please go troll elsewhere.
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05-10-2011, 09:56 PM
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thats in my ab mod and tune only car, look to the left. I have 2 SS/TC's, what have you done with a tune and AB mod only car?
Also judging by all your posts you are some guy with a fast car, small ***** and a big mouth and you just run it on the forums to make yourself feel better. You have nothing to add to this thread, please go troll elsewhere.
Also judging by all your posts you are some guy with a fast car, small ***** and a big mouth and you just run it on the forums to make yourself feel better. You have nothing to add to this thread, please go troll elsewhere.
05-10-2011, 09:59 PM
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Unlike you guys I dont need 600WHP to get a boner, I am only going for 400-420WHP, and this turbo is doing a fine job of it. please stop trolling up the thread, this is for information on the BNR2871, not free advertising for ZZP.
05-10-2011, 10:00 PM
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05-10-2011, 10:08 PM
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05-10-2011, 10:12 PM
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05-10-2011, 10:14 PM
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Im just trying to steer cobalt owners in the right directions, Its getting old that cobalts have such a bad rap, because no one actually knows how to mod them. Theres like 10 fast cobalts...
05-10-2011, 10:26 PM
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Are we factoring in the adden tension from strapping down too? And Matt I know you all make quality parts and have been a great help to the development of LNF performance parts, but ya'll need to work on the BBB score... an F is unsat. I am not sure if I can even refer people to you all any more after seeing that.
B. The non-response items were sent to the wrong address and never received.
C. ZZP has tens of thousands of customers. If you think 2 upset individuals should over-rule thousands of satisfied customers, then that is your choice. I know better than to buy into that sort of thing.
05-10-2011, 10:28 PM
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05-10-2011, 10:37 PM
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400+ whp on street tires is more then enough.. the ability to run low 11's is more then most people need at the twitch of a foot.. no what cares what you think is "fast" so do us all a favor, pack up your e-peen and get the **** out of this thread kthxbai. most cobalt owners dont even have 400 whp.. so by your logic. someone with 400 whp should be already going in the right direction i can probably count on my fingers and toes of cobalts who have pushed over 400 whp including shop cars
05-10-2011, 10:46 PM
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What EFR? There isn't a direct fitment to the market yet. PTE? You must do a manifold, intercooler pipes, oil lines, down pipe, external wastegate ect ect ect. Both options will be $$$$$.
Lets get real here. This 2871 retains the factory twin scroll manifold and turbine housing. It bolts directly to the manifold and the factory down pipe will bolt up with no fabricationto the exhaust side. No fuss, just bolt it on, do an aftermarket bypass/bov and you are good to go for a good gain in power.
05-10-2011, 11:04 PM
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What EFR? There isn't a direct fitment to the market yet. PTE? You must do a manifold, intercooler pipes, oil lines, down pipe, external wastegate ect ect ect. Both options will be $$$$$.
Lets get real here. This 2871 retains the factory twin scroll manifold and turbine housing. It bolts directly to the manifold and the factory down pipe will bolt up with no fabricationto the exhaust side. No fuss, just bolt it on, do an aftermarket bypass/bov and you are good to go for a good gain in power.
Lets get real here. This 2871 retains the factory twin scroll manifold and turbine housing. It bolts directly to the manifold and the factory down pipe will bolt up with no fabricationto the exhaust side. No fuss, just bolt it on, do an aftermarket bypass/bov and you are good to go for a good gain in power.