out of curiousity what type of hp does a ss/sc w/ stage 2, cold air intake, headers & a catback exhaust put out? i'm guesing your putting down almost/if not 250 to the wheels? and that after spending at least $2 thousand into the car after you drove out of the dealer. the ss/tc is basically offering you slightly less stock and if your willing to put that same $2 thousand into the turbo upgrade or whatever $2k is gonna get you, i would assume you are looking at a 2008 cobalt ss/tc w/ 300 horsies to the wheels. also if a tune will get you 15 hp at the crank your talking a few more ponies to join the party. after all is said and done then you pretty much are knocking the socks off any other cobalt ( maybe excluding a worked stage 3 ss/sc). i see this ss/tc as a step into the future for chevy, but apparently spme people are stuck in the past.

 

Is there a turbo upgrade for the LNF? I think we are getting ahead of ourself's .

 

Not that i kniow of.

 

And why wouldn't any ole turbo fit there???

The problem is the injectors, no one knows where they are at idc wise really and there isn't any real upgrades for it.

 

Dejon is currently working on a 16g upgrade kit.
As well, there is one Solstice guy who is doing a GT30R-WG swap... so that should open up a few doors too.

 

Actually the programmer is 945 Euros or 8900 Swedish Krona, which is around $1380.

 

i'm pretty sure theres not one yet but between hahn, gm performance division, and other vendors i don't think it is completely absurd to imagine there being upgrades for the turbo

 

why brembos in the front and not rear?

why brembos in the front and not rear?

 

i dont power shift...so that "no-lift shift" probably wouldnt help me out, its turbo anyways, so why would you need to power shift? unless your racing something a lot faster

 

The turbo is basically useless unless you "no-lift" shift because you loose boost between shifts shifting normally. The only time I wouldn't use no-lift is city driving.

 

Because when u lift of the throttle to shift , the boost drops off like a rock Their no lift shifting isnt like power shifting . Power shifting your throttle on , barely tapping the clutch just enuff to bang into the next gear . GM's no lift holds the RPM like a 2-step , so u can have a nice safe shift without letting up on the throttle and maintaining ur boost pressure .

 

Heres the punchline, youre still calling me a liar, and a douchebag now as well, because you think I called Hahn a liar based on a statement you quoted of someone else quoting what somebody says they heard Hahn say. But you still didnt do even a little research, because if you had you'd know that the best part about the BSR PPC programmer is that Hahn is actually selling it!!!!!
And they list a 43hp rear wheel gain from the programmer ALONE. So a little bit of math and you actually get an approximate crank hp of almost 320hp from JUST this tuner. Add in one of Hahns intercooler that theyre getting over 25hp from and youve got easily 335-340hp!

 

Never realized you were in May's Landing Maven.

Overall, I think the LNF is going to be a HUGE step in the right direction for the SS Cobalt...

 

Lol... I love internet people... they love to do ricer math.
260hp+43hp+25hp=328whp's... ZOMG!!!!

First off... that 260HP quoted by GM, IS NOT wheel HP.... and it's not even quotable power.
Second... if a programmer can nail you 43 @ the wheels... that's maybe 48-50 @ the crank. From my simple math, 260BHP+50BHP=310BHP -> ~275WHP... how are you getting 320?
Third... an intercooler is not a power adder... it's an efficiency device, which frees up power lost to heat.
And finally... I've already did your ricer math, and came up with 328BHP... how are you finding 340WHP out of this?

So... before saying that I'm not doing any research, maybe you should educate yourself on what this equipment will actually do for power output.... and maybe take a look at a few boost maps while your at it... You might understand why pushing the stock turbo that far is not a wise decision.
At least some companies understand this, and are working on a real turbo upgrade.

With that said, I won't even grace your next reply with a response. It seems to me that your dead set with the idea that the LNF is a god send, and that it is uber-boostable from factory.

 

Ok, so if the stock intercooler sucks to the point where if you put one on and you gain HP is that a crime?

On a RWD platform the LNF puts down 24x to the wheels I don't remember the exact number it did but I watched with my own two eyes.

Car was a bone stock Solstice GXP

If you looked into it, what maven is saying true, go look at the solstice forums and what they are doing.

Pushing a stock turbocharger that far might not be the best idea, but saying there isn't room for improvement over stock sounds to me like you are just hating on the LNF for no real reason.

 

... ummm... I'm on the Solstice forums...
All I'm saying is that the stock turbo shouldn't be pushed that far. But if you guys love dealing with the problems associated with overboosting a turbo, then I'm not one to argue.

Here is what I don't understand... I've now got a bunch of guys saying "if you looked into it" and "Go look on another forum" to me on every other post.
Maybe I should write my qualifications in my sig so everyone quits bitching.
A guy who seems to prides him self on this master technician qualifications should be the first to know the problems with pushing a turbo past it's boost map.
But no... instead we have to leave it to the guy who works in the automotive design field to point it out... and then get told he's wrong.

Sooo.... obviously knowledge, experience, and engineering is going to loose this one.
As stated before, I'm done with this stupid ass thread. If you guys want to learn the hard way, go ahead.

 

Why do not see a 2008 SS Cobalt on the Chevy website?

 

Chevy has a shitty website

 

amen to that, I want to get an idea of what the LSD and high rise spoiler options will cost, those are about the only options I would add to the car, for me it would make a damn good driver base, I just want those extra goodies if I can afford them (tho if they took the SS lip kit off like it has been hinted at, I will be investing in an SS/SC style lip kit as well at a later date)

 

The only options I want is LSD and sunroof. I just wish you could get it with out XM because I plan on just swapping my GPS system over or getting another one and I don't want the stock XM antenna on there that I will not even be using. I would prefer no antennas on the car at all, right now I have them mounted inside and they both work great and still get great signal. I also hope that they don't get rid of the lip kit.

 

As for me I like to keep the lip kit aw well. I know my options I am adding are, LSD, High rise, and the sun roof. thats all i need. I don't care for the prem sound anyways. I always take it out, lol.

 

Why does the '08 still have the old antenna? Couldn't AM/FM (yes I still use... Joe Tait is the best NBA radio man) antenna wires been fed to the XM antenna? Or is it too short for AM/FM?

 

To short an AM/FM antenna has to be at least 32 inches long weather some of that is in the body or not, to receive a good signal.

 

they should of wrapped the antenna in order to make it shorter, it makes the car look like a little RC car

 

Yea for the person about to lose the race lol