Direct bolt-on turbo (ko4 replacement)
07-17-2012 | 02:52 PM
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it is a bit ghetto. they send you a flange for the stock manifold and you have the grind one of the edges cause it will hit the 02 housing causing un-proper fitment. other then that just put in the fittings for water and oil and your good. its the best bang for your buck. and it makes decent power not as much as the efr but efr more money and the wait is killer
07-17-2012 | 05:35 PM
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Nah, I hear ya, It makes total sense. I was just saying that I thought your numbers were pretty good, Term thinks that you'll be at 380-390WHP on Stock Turbo e47?! Damn thats crazy! Never saw numbers like that out of the K04 even on e47, Didnt think altitude had that much of an impact.
Bandimere Speedway, Morrison, CO. - YouTube
This video is just a few examples of how bad altitude effects performance. According to Wikipedia (I know I know, but I'm in a hurry and can't find another source) a Viper is supposed to do 12.2 and according to Motor Trend the R/T Challenger is supposed to do the quarter mile in 13.6 seconds yet you'll see in the video it's clearly not that.
07-17-2012 | 10:45 PM
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it is a bit ghetto. they send you a flange for the stock manifold and you have the grind one of the edges cause it will hit the 02 housing causing un-proper fitment. other then that just put in the fittings for water and oil and your good. its the best bang for your buck. and it makes decent power not as much as the efr but efr more money and the wait is killer
07-18-2012 | 02:06 AM
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yea im back lol. i have a manifold leak though gotta get i resolved. im on 20 psi trifecta base tune and it pulls similar to stock turbo on e85. i have some vids and dyno sheets soon for you guys
07-20-2012 | 01:42 AM
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Yeah it does
This video is just a few examples of how bad altitude effects performance. According to Wikipedia (I know I know, but I'm in a hurry and can't find another source) a Viper is supposed to do 12.2 and according to Motor Trend the R/T Challenger is supposed to do the quarter mile in 13.6 seconds yet you'll see in the video it's clearly not that.
This video is just a few examples of how bad altitude effects performance. According to Wikipedia (I know I know, but I'm in a hurry and can't find another source) a Viper is supposed to do 12.2 and according to Motor Trend the R/T Challenger is supposed to do the quarter mile in 13.6 seconds yet you'll see in the video it's clearly not that.
07-20-2012 | 03:19 AM
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Yeah if I ever swap my turbo out it will be for a BNR2871. Its sold by bnrsupercars.com
Good for a direct bolt on, but needs a BOV/Charge pipes.
Good for a direct bolt on, but needs a BOV/Charge pipes.
No that's good up here in the 5800ft range. 81kpa Baro and DA that can reach 8000+ ft
People up here fully bolted with E85 dyno at 355whp. I have 347 on 91 octane via Trifecta. I think that's pretty good. Now I'm Terminator2 tuned and Id like to imagine I have more power.
People up here fully bolted with E85 dyno at 355whp. I have 347 on 91 octane via Trifecta. I think that's pretty good. Now I'm Terminator2 tuned and Id like to imagine I have more power.
Very much agree, I'm a kappa(higher drivetrain loss) with stock turbo and I made the numbers in my sig on a DynoDynamics(similar to Mustang). All thanks to Term2. I can't wait to put my BNR(Ceramic coated exhaust side and CC Manifold) and 5th injector in, Term2 said he'll be shooting for 460whp e85. He mentioned to me the other day that I'm the fastest LNF he's tuned so far(60-100) 4.2 second. God I hope I get good #'s with the BNR.
07-26-2012 | 05:06 PM
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Whats Everyones thought on the 252 and 256et? I'm contimplating on not waiting on the EFR and getting the 252et or 256et, But I want something with a simalar stock spool, HP goals are 400WHP
07-26-2012 | 05:13 PM
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07-26-2012 | 05:34 PM
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Lazaro, why didn't you have me do the 20g? Dart I'd say your about 365-370ish and at 29lbs your just making ore tq but creating a easier way of cracking a ringland. Ecspecially on 91, nothing against yuh. But one e47 there has only been three people to obtain 400whp+ and that's Richard hall aka team ss with 432whp and this was dynoed in 60* temps, then Zzp which was 420s or so and now frogstofall aka Antone at his 408 . Dynos are all different I know. But the flow your seeing 40maf at 26 is low. Richard hall on his gas tune is seeing 42-47 depending on temp of course and that's at a lower boost
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
07-26-2012 | 06:16 PM
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Lazaro, why didn't you have me do the 20g? Dart I'd say your about 365-370ish and at 29lbs your just making ore tq but creating a easier way of cracking a ringland. Ecspecially on 91, nothing against yuh. But one e47 there has only been three people to obtain 400whp+ and that's Richard hall aka team ss with 432whp and this was dynoed in 60* temps, then Zzp which was 420s or so and now frogstofall aka Antone at his 408 . Dynos are all different I know. But the flow your seeing 40maf at 26 is low. Richard hall on his gas tune is seeing 42-47 depending on temp of course and that's at a lower boost
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
07-26-2012 | 06:37 PM
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Lazaro, why didn't you have me do the 20g? Dart I'd say your about 365-370ish and at 29lbs your just making ore tq but creating a easier way of cracking a ringland. Ecspecially on 91, nothing against yuh. But one e47 there has only been three people to obtain 400whp+ and that's Richard hall aka team ss with 432whp and this was dynoed in 60* temps, then Zzp which was 420s or so and now frogstofall aka Antone at his 408 . Dynos are all different I know. But the flow your seeing 40maf at 26 is low. Richard hall on his gas tune is seeing 42-47 depending on temp of course and that's at a lower boost
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
Other thing, the 20g is a great reliable turbo and I also recommend it along wit the bnr for direct bolt ons. The Zzp efr I'll let you know soon.
Others same
07-26-2012 | 07:16 PM
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Dart. Base or not your not gonna see anything above 380whp unless your tune is stupid aggressive with ure fuel. The science is there. If you do get your #s your saying (happy dyno) ... The only people I've ever seen dynos from was frog, team ss and Zzp. Never seen one for 440whp but team as is 8whp away lol
07-26-2012 | 07:17 PM
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every car is a little different, but most people seem to be blowin a trans above 400whp/400wtq..it all depends on tires and clutch mostly..if you have an aftermarket clutch and real sticky tires then the trans becomes the weak point and breaks...
07-26-2012 | 07:21 PM
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cccs3 what kind of numbers would i see on 93 full bolt ons with a bnr on a 25 psi tune for a dd ?
07-26-2012 | 07:29 PM
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Aggressive you can see 370-380 93 octane, conserve and safe dd 350-370 . Timing and the afr is what will be different. I'll explain
I just recently took of my td07 25g turbo and installed the 20g back on because the turbo bearing was seizing. And because people wanted numbers. So I put in 6 gallons of 91 and 6 gallons of89 octane to give people a wider variety of its capabilities for honest all around the world. Well I tuned it highly aggressive and the car managed to take 20* in areas. It wouldn't take as much in areas. Mainly cuz heat and fuel. But it still managed 400whp. And the reasoning is because of I ramped boost in slow, and I gave it a **** ton of timing. Yes it got kr because the heat and has, but te point I made was the turbos capabilities. If I were to tune it on 93 and same aggressiveness I could get 400whp safely ( for my driving habits) since the life of your engine is dependent on the driver.
The 20g flows a little more then the bnr, but what I did was honestly to much and it wasn't safe. It was just to see what they dyno numbers would be.
I just recently took of my td07 25g turbo and installed the 20g back on because the turbo bearing was seizing. And because people wanted numbers. So I put in 6 gallons of 91 and 6 gallons of89 octane to give people a wider variety of its capabilities for honest all around the world. Well I tuned it highly aggressive and the car managed to take 20* in areas. It wouldn't take as much in areas. Mainly cuz heat and fuel. But it still managed 400whp. And the reasoning is because of I ramped boost in slow, and I gave it a **** ton of timing. Yes it got kr because the heat and has, but te point I made was the turbos capabilities. If I were to tune it on 93 and same aggressiveness I could get 400whp safely ( for my driving habits) since the life of your engine is dependent on the driver.
The 20g flows a little more then the bnr, but what I did was honestly to much and it wasn't safe. It was just to see what they dyno numbers would be.
07-26-2012 | 07:34 PM
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I guess I should have elaborated on my dyno sheet post. That was 24.5psi on E47. For some reason the car would not make the 27-28psi I have the car tuned for (verified by the logs). Very odd bc as soon as I got off the dyno, I was making 27-28psi on the street. But pretty good numbers imo. On 27-28psi this car feels RIDICULOUS. Easily in the 425-435whp range.