Direct bolt-on turbo (ko4 replacement)
03-25-2013 | 12:06 PM
#1076
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I would get the ZFR if you want a straight bolt on and with no BOV to worry about setting up and leaking which is a good thing.
03-25-2013 | 12:09 PM
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Holy crap. 460whp would be awesome
can the ZFR be ramped up to 28-30psi where it is maxed out and still be safe on 93 gas TO 6500RPMS?
If so, how much power are we thinking with full bolt-ons like me, at sea level here in Florida ON SOME DECENT TIMING or would fueling still be an issue???
can the ZFR be ramped up to 28-30psi where it is maxed out and still be safe on 93 gas TO 6500RPMS?
If so, how much power are we thinking with full bolt-ons like me, at sea level here in Florida ON SOME DECENT TIMING or would fueling still be an issue???
03-25-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Nice numbers on 93! I am starting Adrian's ZFR today. Just waiting on him to let me know if we are doing full E-85 with the 5th injector or if we are doing E-47 without. He is at nearly 6000 ft above sea level so fueling should not be an issue on E-47 even cranking the ZFR up to 29 psi. IIRC he made 357 whp 412 wrtq SAE on E-85 on the stock turbo at 5200 + altitude so should make great power on the ZFR. I am hoping it will see 460 whp at 29 psi (same absolute pressure as 25 psi at sea level)
03-25-2013 | 12:14 PM
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You don't need to worry about that either with the wr2... it setups up just like a factory bpv. If you don't want the forge you dont need to get the forge. We will include a factory piece
03-25-2013 | 12:21 PM
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I have a forge bpv already.
The only thing i will be changing will be my intake set-up. I have the zzp tube/k&n filter set-up along with all the other zzp bolt-ons(intercooler,pipes, catted downpipe) and muffler delete.
I want either the k&n intake or the treadstone intake with the turbo that i get.
Omiotek - what kind of tune and gas was that wr-2 on to make 415whp/430wtq on the kappa?
BTW GUYS, MONEY HAS BEEN MY ONLY BARRIER NOW. MY RESEARCH IS OVER...LOL
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03-25-2013 | 12:40 PM
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03-25-2013 | 02:45 PM
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03-25-2013 | 02:47 PM
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03-25-2013 | 02:52 PM
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Thats cool. I would rather keep a factory style recirculated BPV than to run a BOV and the factory boost control is so much better as far as drivability than any MBC or EBC out there. Some people like the noise of a BOV but IMHO it is annoying and they can be more of a headache as far as sticking and leaking.
03-25-2013 | 03:40 PM
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I was looking into these recently, and am breaking my silence to just try to clarify one point;
it looks like pretty much all these "bolt on" turbos require a custome hot side charge pipe, or at a minimum a different adapter/elbow to connect to the existing charge pipe;
Am I correct?
it looks like pretty much all these "bolt on" turbos require a custome hot side charge pipe, or at a minimum a different adapter/elbow to connect to the existing charge pipe;
Am I correct?
03-25-2013 | 04:32 PM
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Interested to see the numbers for e47 with the 5th injector kit. I was running out of fuel at like 24/25 psi with e47. Would love to see numbers for 29 psi. I was forced to use 100 octane to go up to 28/29 psi, I don't have the 5th injector kit.
03-25-2013 | 04:43 PM
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At his altitude though 29 psi is like 25-26 psi at sea level due to his baro pressure being 78-82 kpa vs 100-101 kpa at sea level.
03-25-2013 | 04:45 PM
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I was looking into these recently, and am breaking my silence to just try to clarify one point;
it looks like pretty much all these "bolt on" turbos require a custome hot side charge pipe, or at a minimum a different adapter/elbow to connect to the existing charge pipe;
Am I correct?
it looks like pretty much all these "bolt on" turbos require a custome hot side charge pipe, or at a minimum a different adapter/elbow to connect to the existing charge pipe;
Am I correct?
As far as the ZFR:
- The ZZP hotside works
- The Injen hotside works if you have a coupler extension
- ZZP stated the Hahn hotside can work, but didn't specify how easily
- The CIA hotside does not work (the boat I was in), though ZZP offered to weld a 2" tip on the ZFR or lengthen my hotside pipe
There may be others that would work, but would require some adaptation, or at least a coupler extension at a minimum. The ZFR is ~2" radius outlet, so a 2.5" radius hotside pipe end like mine would require a reducer of a longer length, which nobody seems to make.
As far as the ZZP hotside, it's incomplete, and uses the stock rubber tubes to complete it. If you don't have those anymore or aren't comfortable with using those in an increased boost application like this, you can buy the upgraded strength silicone tubes from them.
03-25-2013 | 05:00 PM
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My plan is to Order zzp's intercooler kit when I place an order for the zfr and use their coupler. I already have their castles d/p and k&n Sri, will also be getting a forged bpv so that should complete everything I need.
Also need to find a new tuner in md/va area, as my very good tuner that tuned my lsj moved to the west coast.
Also need to find a new tuner in md/va area, as my very good tuner that tuned my lsj moved to the west coast.
03-25-2013 | 05:13 PM
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I was researching this for several weeks. The ZFR doesn't have an extended snout bolted on the end like the K04 does, so it requires extra length from the hotside to be able to connect it up, usually in the form of a coupler extension.
As far as the ZFR:
- The ZZP hotside works
- The Injen hotside works if you have a coupler extension
- ZZP stated the Hahn hotside can work, but didn't specify how easily
- The CIA hotside does not work (the boat I was in), though ZZP offered to weld a 2" tip on the ZFR or lengthen my hotside pipe
There may be others that would work, but would require some adaptation, or at least a coupler extension at a minimum. The ZFR is ~2" radius outlet, so a 2.5" radius hotside pipe end like mine would require a reducer of a longer length, which nobody seems to make.
As far as the ZZP hotside, it's incomplete, and uses the stock rubber tubes to complete it. If you don't have those anymore or aren't comfortable with using those in an increased boost application like this, you can buy the upgraded strength silicone tubes from them.
As far as the ZFR:
- The ZZP hotside works
- The Injen hotside works if you have a coupler extension
- ZZP stated the Hahn hotside can work, but didn't specify how easily
- The CIA hotside does not work (the boat I was in), though ZZP offered to weld a 2" tip on the ZFR or lengthen my hotside pipe
There may be others that would work, but would require some adaptation, or at least a coupler extension at a minimum. The ZFR is ~2" radius outlet, so a 2.5" radius hotside pipe end like mine would require a reducer of a longer length, which nobody seems to make.
As far as the ZZP hotside, it's incomplete, and uses the stock rubber tubes to complete it. If you don't have those anymore or aren't comfortable with using those in an increased boost application like this, you can buy the upgraded strength silicone tubes from them.