kyles making a big boy step into the world of racing......... wr3 is too big too laggy for a fwd car

 

Lol. What is he looking to get?

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Ko4+ on e85

 

I still want some compressor wheel sizes for the wr3..

 

Those have been out for a long time, look on the site of look at my build thread. I've put down more power on 93 then any ZFR numbers that are out there

 

they our listed onour website and somewhere in this thread

 

I dont think it's a 67mm inducer for the compressor wheel. That means its bigger than a gt37r which I HIGHLY doubt.

 

And what would be the point to lie about it? I could understand if it were a off the wall company but your taking about a well established performance shop

 

you ever see the wr3? its massive.

 

Would it be bigger than a 256et or would it be similar in size?

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Turbo size, pretty similiar, but the exhaust side is different on the 256, the wr3 still has the stock exhaust side. You will be able to get more power out of the 256

 

I purchased a k04+ recently but am not planning on putting it on till i park it for the winter. After talking with people i decided to get it based on it being a direct bolt up, potential of 375hp-410tq ( e-47) and still drive pretty much like stock. Didnt need zfr power, and didnt want a trans killer, just a more powerful balanced car. Until you can hook up the power ( maybe at the drags with slicks) i just didnt see the appeal of it. ( but i do also have a 406 powered chevy2). Still wanted all the flexibility of gas mileage, boltup, and looking stock in my dd car. I would go zfr if i also wanted to shell out the money for a zzp 6sd, as that combo would be awesome. Nothing against the big turbo guys, to each his own.

 

Nobody called anybody a liar. I'm just making sure you guys understand what you're saying. 67mm inducer wheel means you have a turbo that is bigger than a gt40r, 6466 etc. you have a 800hp turbo which I HIGHLY doubt.

I'm sure it is, but that's not the inducer wheel. It can't be to only put out 525hp...

The way it looks by the way their saying it, this turbo is bigger than s259 by a long shot. 67mm compressor exducer wheel is what I'm guessing. It should be around a 30r in size.

 

It's 55mm inducer, with 67mm compressor wheel

 

So it's basically the same size of an efr 6758 (54mm ind, 67mm exd compressor) yet it's that laggy? That's not exactly what I would really consider a "massive" turbo by any means though. :/

 

any turbo thats smaller the a gt4288 isnt big imho... i was just saying the sheer size of it is big especially when you see it in the car. its a tight fit. having installed multiple zfrs the wr3s tighter fitting

the gamma ti wheels you can blow on and make spin. hense the fast spool up. switching to a 6758 from a 5557 i picked up 800rpm faster spool time. percisions have never spooled up super fast when you sit them next to the efrs. no ones going to be able to touch what borg warner did for a long time. just about every single bit of technology into them turbos was patented

 

enough said right there as far as comparison precision vs borg waner

 

Not really........ that's just the efr series... im not a fan of any of their other turbos. I would run percisions stuff all day otherwise

 

in my opinion, precision is a better turbo for max power and for reliability, but spool time is almost always better on a borg warner turbo...

 

I was directing my comment towards the wr3 being "massive" comment.... .... more so than a personal opinion of the manufactures and the technology involved in either turbo, considering how close in size the compressor wheels really are on both of the turbos. Even so 5k full spool still seems like an awful late spool for the size turbo that it is. I have a feeling it may have more to do with the turbine wheel size choice more so than the turbo technology involved.

 

Where did you see 5k, I have it in my car and I can tell you its at full spool far before 5k

 

Your dyno graph shows full spool (27.6psi) by pretty much right at 5k my man. Unless I'm somehow missing something..

 

Are you referring to this graph?

 

I don't think I've seen that one before, or at least if I did I don't recall. I was referring to this graph from the official dyno thread actually.

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...ps404bb5f9.jpg

 

its what percision turbo wanted to use. we left the sizing stuff entirely in their hand.