Drewbroo's Tune review Part II - Superchips, HP, TF (With Dyno comparrison sheets)
09-06-2011 | 12:08 PM
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Your STFT being +10 wont effect the wideband reading. The MAF, O2 sensor and trims are there to keep the car commanding the desired AFR. We have found the car will run better and perform better when that is all in line, but people like to think because that is +10 that they are running 10% lean. Which isn't the case. The MAF tables are commanding 10% off so it is "trimming" them back to run the correct AFR still. Just a FYI 
09-06-2011 | 12:17 PM
#102
I agree, just saying that Drew noticing his Wideband didn't change was for a reason (also wanted to put it out there that the trim being a certain number does NOT mean the car is running rich/lean necessarily)
(also wanted to put it out there that the trim being a certain number does NOT mean the car is running rich/lean necessarily)
09-06-2011 | 01:24 PM
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09-06-2011 | 03:51 PM
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09-06-2011 | 03:59 PM
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09-06-2011 | 07:32 PM
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With that logic if an HPTuner tunes a safe and reliable conservative tune vs Trifecta, what happens? Are they the same? Part of me feels like they will be, but what I'm getting from this debate is that HPTuners don't like how vince does somethings in his tune and would do it differently. Like Vince doesn't do his fuel right. I'm not speaking against anyone, I just recently got a HPT so I'm trying it out so I can see what works best for me.
Anyway Vinces tune is fine for me, but I only run the 1/4 mile in 14.005 103 or something like that on his tune and local guys with GMS1 run like 14.1 sooo... either my driving is terrible or my tune isn't right. Other guys here with HPT they run 13.6-13.8 so not taking any responsibility for my driving I can only blame tune.
Granted I suck at launches, but I am the only local guy I know with Trifecta...
Anyway Vinces tune is fine for me, but I only run the 1/4 mile in 14.005 103 or something like that on his tune and local guys with GMS1 run like 14.1 sooo... either my driving is terrible or my tune isn't right. Other guys here with HPT they run 13.6-13.8 so not taking any responsibility for my driving I can only blame tune.
Granted I suck at launches, but I am the only local guy I know with Trifecta...
09-06-2011 | 09:11 PM
#111
im gonna have Terminator2 tune my car here real soon, and all im gonna have is a turbo-xs downpipe and muffler delete. Im looking for 320whp/320wtq and i wanna stay below 23psi..hopefully all goes well...
09-06-2011 | 09:27 PM
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people that are utting out 320 to the wheels are normally (could be wrong) around i wanna say 360-380wtrq.. all in the tune and how agressive really, others will chime in. In these cars youll more than likely have more trq than hp.. atleast when it comes to simple bolt ons and tune.. im still learning too tho lol
09-06-2011 | 09:46 PM
#116
you are also in fl, where the elevation is like 1 foot.
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
09-06-2011 | 09:53 PM
#117
you are also in fl, where the elevation is like 1 foot.
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
09-06-2011 | 10:00 PM
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you are also in fl, where the elevation is like 1 foot.
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
yeah i didnt realize where he was at lol
09-06-2011 | 10:02 PM
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09-06-2011 | 10:03 PM
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you are also in fl, where the elevation is like 1 foot.
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
Vahdyx is at 8400 ft (calc DA) of elevation.
The higher the altitude, the less dense there air is. This is why people at higher altitudes run slower times. I wan a 13.78 stock at bradenton when I lived in florida. Where as here in tucson with the GMS1 I ran a 14.1/14.2 . (Its the altitude difference)
Up here other cobalt members with no parts, but GMS1 they run about what I do...
09-06-2011 | 10:05 PM
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09-06-2011 | 10:07 PM
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Damn, that is good. I will throw a party if I hit 13s. I've tried all summer long to hit 13s with Vince's tune. I suck at launches but when people analyzed my run sheet they said I wouldn't do much better if I launched good. They said my car just isn't accelerating like it should...
Up here other cobalt members with no parts, but GMS1 they run about what I do...
Up here other cobalt members with no parts, but GMS1 they run about what I do...
09-06-2011 | 10:14 PM
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Damn, that is good. I will throw a party if I hit 13s. I've tried all summer long to hit 13s with Vince's tune. I suck at launches but when people analyzed my run sheet they said I wouldn't do much better if I launched good. They said my car just isn't accelerating like it should...
Up here other cobalt members with no parts, but GMS1 they run about what I do...
Up here other cobalt members with no parts, but GMS1 they run about what I do...
09-06-2011 | 11:33 PM
#125
didnt realize you could tune the torque curve for the clutch/tranny to be safe. 404lbs is awesome torque man.
13.78 @ 103-104mph is rediculously good for stock. it must have been cold outside to run that, great numbers either way.
Im just waiting till i can meet up with terminator2 to get tuned. i cant wait to be honest, it will be a glorious day im sure...hahahaha
13.78 @ 103-104mph is rediculously good for stock. it must have been cold outside to run that, great numbers either way.
Im just waiting till i can meet up with terminator2 to get tuned. i cant wait to be honest, it will be a glorious day im sure...hahahaha