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Old 09-18-2014 | 10:31 PM
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Really? Wow. Would E still be worth the extra WHP? I currently run my LSJ on it and I have had 0 issues.

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Id say go with the e-tune. You can get good numbers with 93 but you can make a little bit more power with E and be safer. Ethanol decreases the chance of detonation due to the higher octane.
Old 09-19-2014 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by LNFnoob
To the OP,I have everything you have besides muffler delete,and on a 23psi, 93 octane tune using HP,my max hp/tq was 319/398 with stock clutch slipping in 4th on the pull,so the numbers your wanting are achievable without E
"Numbers" are only relative to the dyno you run on. Find yourself on a liberal dyno and a very aggressive 93 octane tune, sure you'll hit 340. Find yourself on a realistic and well calibrated dyno, 340's not happening on a stock turbo without ethanol. There are plenty of 300whp balts kicking around that will mop the floors with a similarly modded balt making "330-340whp". Just saying..
Old 09-19-2014 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Josh-SS
Just wondering what you all think I would make with the following mods on E85.

HAHN CAI
Hot side charge pipe
Catless DP
Muffler Delete
Forge BPV

With a tune on 21-23 PSI. What kind of power could I make?

Realistically I want to be around 340 WHP and 380 TQ

I want to basically be at the limit where I am not destine to blow the trans but I'm at the power level where I will of course have to be careful with it. Just wondering what you all think. Thanks in advance.
That should be easily do able with Opel injectors. 23psi should be 345-350 whp and 390 wrtq at sea level.
Old 09-19-2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by LNFnoob
To the OP,I have everything you have besides muffler delete,and on a 23psi, 93 octane tune using HP,my max hp/tq was 319/398 with stock clutch slipping in 4th on the pull,so the numbers your wanting are achievable without E
400 wrtq on 93 means you are spiking close to 29psi and it is falling off hard which is why it goes to only 319 whp. There is no comparison for how much faster they are on E-85 or E-47 vs 93 there is a massive powerband difference at a given boost level not just the peak numbers.
Old 09-19-2014 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
That should be easily do able with Opel injectors. 23psi should be 345-350 whp and 390 wrtq at sea level.
And larger fuel lobe for the hpfp to support the additional fuel demand, particularly when adding the larger opel injectors.
Old 09-19-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
And larger fuel lobe for the hpfp to support the additional fuel demand, particularly when adding the larger opel injectors.
Yes
Old 09-19-2014 | 07:06 PM
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I'm only 600 feet above sea level. I can run an E-47 mix. Fuel type isn't the problem. Just trying to make the most of the mods I have.
Old 09-19-2014 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ae_xiong
Sorry OP, don't mean to jack your thread or anything but I was kind of wondering if anyone has ever dynoed while on e-85 and compared it to being on meth? Just wondering what the difference in numbers will be between the both of them. Thanks!
E-47 and E-85 make about the same amount of power if wg settings and air loads are the same. Meth on the same settings will normally make a little less power unless injecting a huge amount of it.
Old 09-19-2014 | 08:34 PM
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I'm only 600 feet above sea level. I can run an E-47 mix. Fuel type isn't the problem. Just trying to make the most of the mods I have.
Do E-47 14% less fuel mass load and will make the same amount of power as E-85.
Old 09-20-2014 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Do E-47 14% less fuel mass load and will make the same amount of power as E-85.
That's what I figured Should save the fuel lobe a bit too.
Old 09-20-2014 | 10:28 PM
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No real need for the larger hpfp cam lobe with e47 on the stock turbo.
Old 09-22-2014 | 01:01 AM
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What in the hell is E47
Old 09-22-2014 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Spins All Day
What in the hell is E47
It's 1/2 premium unleaded and 1/2 e85.
Old 09-22-2014 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
No real need for the larger hpfp cam lobe with e47 on the stock turbo.
Nope plenty of injection widow to open up if need be on E-47 and stock turbo. The 14% less fuel mass vs E-85 helps.
Old 09-22-2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Spins All Day
What in the hell is E47
I thought every member on here knew that 50% E-85 and 50% E-10 gasoline blended is E-47.
Old 09-23-2014 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Nope plenty of injection widow to open up if need be on E-47 and stock turbo. The 14% less fuel mass vs E-85 helps.
Oh no doubt only on the stock turbo. Any larger of a turbo you're just basically pulling back on power to maintain proper and safe fueling. What worries me a bit though are the folks running the Opel injectors by themselves without a larger hpfp cam lobe to support them. You think you had rail pressure and idc issues before?? LOL
Old 09-23-2014 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Oh no doubt only on the stock turbo. Any larger of a turbo you're just basically pulling back on power to maintain proper and safe fueling. What worries me a bit though are the folks running the Opel injectors by themselves without a larger hpfp cam lobe to support them. You think you had rail pressure and idc issues before?? LOL
I got a S-256 on E-47, stock injectors and stock cams to 30 psi (90% wg duty cycle) with no injection window misfire issues even at 7200 RPMs. His injection times are pretty long up to 6.9 MS up top and 8 Ms as it spools at 3600 (I have the injection start angle advanced as far as it can go without causing misfires) and his IDCs are up to 36% up top but it holds 17 mPa rail pressure and no misfires at wide open at all. I borught it up slowly starting at 20psi (60% wg duty cycle) 2 psi (10% on the wg) at a time expectiong to get to around 24-25psi and start encountering misfires but I kept on bring it up with no issues. Car moves 48-49lbs/min max up top at 30psi. I do not remember his screen name but his name is Cody.
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