Figure I can tell you guys now...
#1
Figure I can tell you guys now...LNF build
So after the whole incident with the grounding strap breaking off in the head and the car going boom, I have decided to do a full build!
My initial thoughts were that I was going to put it back to stock (few bolt ons) and take it to GM and hope that they would cover it (hopes and dreams), Well I realized that I don't have time for all of that so I have been talking to a local shop Performance Autowerks and they are going to build and install a block for me. Go ahead and flame for bought not built, and well it is what it is haha. I am a full time college student/athlete so have zero time to actually do the build myself. Me and James tried to figure out dates that would work, but nothing would work for the next 2 months. I don't have time for that, I need a car! haha
Here is the following list of parts:
Cylinder Head -
WERKSracing high rpm single valve springs
WERKSracing MLS head gasket
WERKSracing high strength timing chain tensioner
ARP head stud kit
New GM valves, seals, direct injectors and high pressure fuel pump
New GM camshafts, cam gear phasers, cam solenoids and timing chain and guides
Short Block -
WERKSracing balanced rotating assembly
Wiseco Forged LNF turbo pistons
Carillo Forged A-Beam connecting rods
New GM main and rod bearings
New GM oil pickup, water pump, seals and oil pump/front cover
New GM Timing chain and balance shaft guides, balance shafts, tensioner and balance shaft chain.
New oil filter
I know I could do it for a lot cheaper by myself, but time is money and this is the far more convienent route. I am pretty happy with where the car will be, in hopes that I will go big turbo in the next year!
My initial thoughts were that I was going to put it back to stock (few bolt ons) and take it to GM and hope that they would cover it (hopes and dreams), Well I realized that I don't have time for all of that so I have been talking to a local shop Performance Autowerks and they are going to build and install a block for me. Go ahead and flame for bought not built, and well it is what it is haha. I am a full time college student/athlete so have zero time to actually do the build myself. Me and James tried to figure out dates that would work, but nothing would work for the next 2 months. I don't have time for that, I need a car! haha
Here is the following list of parts:
Cylinder Head -
WERKSracing high rpm single valve springs
WERKSracing MLS head gasket
WERKSracing high strength timing chain tensioner
ARP head stud kit
New GM valves, seals, direct injectors and high pressure fuel pump
New GM camshafts, cam gear phasers, cam solenoids and timing chain and guides
Short Block -
WERKSracing balanced rotating assembly
Wiseco Forged LNF turbo pistons
Carillo Forged A-Beam connecting rods
New GM main and rod bearings
New GM oil pickup, water pump, seals and oil pump/front cover
New GM Timing chain and balance shaft guides, balance shafts, tensioner and balance shaft chain.
New oil filter
I know I could do it for a lot cheaper by myself, but time is money and this is the far more convienent route. I am pretty happy with where the car will be, in hopes that I will go big turbo in the next year!
Last edited by kdub1492; 09-18-2012 at 10:11 PM.
#6
Which ground was broke off? The one by the exhaust side on the back/transmission side of the head? If so then thats most likely what caused my car to go lean cause when removing the head I noticed the wire was hanging when I went to unbolt it. I'm guessing its a ground for the fueling system?
#8
I'm going with the WERKSracing block, we don't know the full damage of mine yet, but once they open it up I will have a few decisions to make. There is not a turbo going on right now, but will be in the near future (prolly march-april). And I decided to go with the a-beam because they are rated to over 800HP lol, my power goals are no more then 500HP even when I do go bigger turbo
#10
werks is offering the ZZP blocc i posted the link on another thread so i cant remember but total was in the realm of 7k for everything, thinking of calling them to have my head work done.
#11
I'm going with the WERKSracing block, we don't know the full damage of mine yet, but once they open it up I will have a few decisions to make. There is not a turbo going on right now, but will be in the near future (prolly march-april). And I decided to go with the a-beam because they are rated to over 800HP lol, my power goals are no more then 500HP even when I do go bigger turbo
I know the H-beams are good for that much power but this is the first I'm hearing the A-beams can handle that much. Good to know.
#12
H-beams are rated at over 1100 close to 1200 I believe and A-beams are at the 800HP area! I didn't know it either until I started talking more with Matt and Dave about the build
#13
I can assure you that nothing they do comes from ZZP lol...They do offer a 2.1 and a 2.4, but they are doing all the work to get it like that. You can however get the ZZP cam's with the build which I think is kinda cool!
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#17
its not like we are against using their parts and will refuse business because their parts are on a car or someone bought their parts and wants to put them on but we do, do our own thing here. we dont have anything against zzp for all the people that think we do aswell. they do their thing and we do ours.
Last edited by Omiotek; 09-19-2012 at 03:46 PM.
#18
just as an FYI.... WE DONT USE ZZP BLOCKS. those are zzps deal and you buy the zzp blocks through them. we build our own. just because its a 2.1L doesnt mean its zzps stuff. we have our own 2.1L and our own 2.4L LNF. we offer the zzp cams in the engines but they are made by comp cams so they are an option.
its not like we are against using their parts and will refuse business because their parts are on a car or someone bought their parts and wants to put them on but we do, do our own thing here. we dont have anything against zzp for all the people that think we do aswell. they do their thing and we do ours.
its not like we are against using their parts and will refuse business because their parts are on a car or someone bought their parts and wants to put them on but we do, do our own thing here. we dont have anything against zzp for all the people that think we do aswell. they do their thing and we do ours.
#19
You never answered what I asked. Was that ground the one in the backside of the head on the exhaust side? The little ground wire? And that caused your engine failure?
#20
Oh sorry man haha...it was the grouding strap on the spark plug in cylinder 1. I didn't have complete engine failure, just zero compression in cylinder 1 and low compression in the rest. I just decided to do a full build because then I won't have to worry about anything else..ya know? I don't know exactly how it happened, I was doing a pull and was logging at the time. Me and James (ccss3) think it was just a weak strap from being gapped..**** happens haha. When we looked over the log everything was spot on perfect, I suppose just bad luck
#21
Oh sorry man haha...it was the grouding strap on the spark plug in cylinder 1. I didn't have complete engine failure, just zero compression in cylinder 1 and low compression in the rest. I just decided to do a full build because then I won't have to worry about anything else..ya know? I don't know exactly how it happened, I was doing a pull and was logging at the time. Me and James (ccss3) think it was just a weak strap from being gapped..**** happens haha. When we looked over the log everything was spot on perfect, I suppose just bad luck
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#25
He may have idk. This block and internals will have all the necessary hardware to rev it out to 8k, but from what I have heard there has been no power gain because of the previously stated problems