I NLS'ed maybe a handful of times on stock tune when I first got the car but I dont do that anymore at all.... still seems wrong and too harsh, so I'll stick to the tried and true old fashion way.

 

Pussies! I used to NLS the **** out of my SS/TC all the time when i was tuned and never had an issue with the car. GM before the car being released tested NLS a little over 1200 times, opened the tranny and saw that it was good to go still. I can understand on a big turbo but come on, on the stock, please.


I tried for the longest time to get a group of people together for a Shep trans. All he needed was 10 people with $1000. He would of made a bulletproof trans but you guys are a bunch of broke ***** as in a course of a month I was only able to gather like 5 willing to step up.

 

I was obviously not around for this group buy with the trans cuz I'm the farthest thing from cheap and or broke lol

 

Even with that kinda name it was hard getting people. It got frustrating and this is a guy helping the Cobalt guys that doesn't even have one anymore. I know FF_ace kinda took over that thread. Not sure what happened.

 

Its going to cost a lot more then a grand for a built trans...... hell billet input shafts aren't cheap let alone when you start building additional gears..... so I hope the 1000 was just a deposit when the rest due at completion. Sheppard does good stuff but its far from cheap

 

Far from cheap but yes, when I called them it for those first 10 it was hat a grand. For those buy after he would sell one for 1450.

 

Yeah I don't think that was a completer gear set.......I mean look at what a helical gear set costs for a 5 speed or 6 speed

 

Well then, he was lying I guess. I know what he told me.

 

thats right, it was just a name. Shep doesn't know **** about GM F35. Sure he may know about DSMs and EVOs but you want people to put up a grand for a transmission that has never been tested? what if you put up your grand and he builds one, it doesn't hold any more power than the stock trans, and you get screwed. Thats why nobody bothered with it.

 

I would imagine that someone of his (Shep's) caliber wouldn't necessarily need to know every detail of the F35 to make a good one. He's one of those people that seems to know what the hell he is doing in the transmission world. I would liken it to how Powell designed the YYZ springs. He's not a spring designer like Eibach or Pedder but he's got lots of suspension know-how and he used that knowledge and experience to make some (apparently) great springs (I've not tried them myself).

I think the problem was that its a lot of money to give up on while relying on 9 other people to do the same. If somone was really that set on it, they would come up with the $10k themselves and then take a cut of the sales from the first 10 trans sold to recoup their money....

*cough* *cough* zzp *cough* *cough*

 

true...lol

 

You aren't putting down 410whp on a loaded mustang dyno like the OP are you? If you didn't use a load based dyno, you're comparing apples to oranges as the load based dyno will not throw down the "hero" numbers. You're also trying to comparing peak numbers. Spool time, power under the curve, how well the curve carries etc is what matters.

Unless you were to graph things in excel over one another to see the differences, you're basically trying to compare dick sizes without actually busting out the tape measure and sword fighting.

Good luck on your quest man. You've got a great base. It's time to turn up the wick now.

Doesn't look bad at all. Nice numbers kdub. Very respectable on that dyno from what I've gathered.

 

[QUOTE=Doesn't look bad at all. Nice numbers kdub. Very respectable on that dyno from what I've gathered. [/QUOTE]

Thanks man I really appreciate it! Those are very good numbers for that dyno and on 93 without any meth or added ethanol.

 

very nice indeed. hey kyle i did a writeup on that meth install if you wanna check it out!

 

Lololol ya cause a guy that builds trannys for a gtr that cost 20k plus a core can't figure out an f35. Really?

 

I NLS'd mine twice. Stock motor (Cat back, Drop in K&N - STOCK TUNE), Exidy Clutch. Below was the result:

 

meh, you are missing the point. I never said shep was a moron, i just said he didnt know the F35 that well. So what he builds GTR Transmissions, I simply stated that the reason people didnt pony up the money cause there was no definite guarantee this would work. It was all R&D. GM/Chrysler/Ford dont go "hey guys, before we build a car we need 10 people to donate 10k and then the rest on completion.

 

Sure they do, why do you think the 2010 Cobalt SS's are better than the 09's and the 09's are better than the 08's? (Better as in have less issues with) The consumer is a big corporations R&D they just don't tell you about it. If there is an issue with a 08, they fix it in 09 absorb the warranty costs and hope that no more than 75% of the 08 parts fail when under warranty. Good example of this may be the injectors on the 08 & 09 having different seals than the 2010's. If what I'm reading is correct, those are a problem.

 

I know they do reports back, but they didnt ask people to pony up money in the beginning before even constructing the first cobalt.

oh nevermind, Im done lol

 

There's your reason right there.

Anyone done it on a stock clutch?

 

The more aggressive the clutch the less you should be NLS'ing. There is a lot less give in a clutch like a exedy or clutchmaster...

 

Werks' dyno is notorious for reading low. Friend of mine dyno'd his 5557 lsj and made 340whp on their dyno, and then went out and was taking down cars that were claiming 500whp.

My guess is kdub's numbers would be closer to 460whp on a dynojet.

Kdub, my only concern is the boost spike you're seeing on tip-in. That's a tranny killer. Are you using the stock boost control?

 

Well guys back to PWerks I go! Me and Dave have decided it was time to ditch the reducer from the turbo to the intake pipe and we are building a 4" intake! Thing is gonna be massive. We have a baseline tune right now, so we will be able to see gains/losses. Also going to be throwing on the Powell PCV system while shes down. End of the summer I will be going with cams/5th injector. Just don't have the time right now.

 

Good stuff bro!! Keep us updated!!

 

4" intake?!? That's nuts. All just to get rid of a reducer?