FTW-k04R vs ZFR In need of turbo swap!!
#1427
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we stuffed a 5431 into a k04 housing... made 415- 420whp on a solstice....i cqnnot remember the exact numbers but it had full bolt ons and methonal injection but no cams. downside is it wouldnt hold the power passed 6200-6500 due to the smaller compressor housing. anyhting is do able but like other turbos out there what good is it if you cant hold the power very long.
#1428
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#1429
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we stuffed a 5431 into a k04 housing... made 415- 420whp on a solstice....i cqnnot remember the exact numbers but it had full bolt ons and methonal injection but no cams. downside is it wouldnt hold the power passed 6200-6500 due to the smaller compressor housing. anyhting is do able but like other turbos out there what good is it if you cant hold the power very long.
#1430
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Received one of my turbos from Matthew yesterday. Will be installed within the next week or so. Still rounding up the necessary gaskets and have new widebands coming too. Turbo is literally brand new... No crack in the divider etc. Upgraded WG canister looks slightly larger too.
Results on the old man's ride (runs an ethanol blend) soon!
Results on the old man's ride (runs an ethanol blend) soon!
#1434
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Nathan wants 400hp but with the fuel he has on the island he has to run 4° timing on the k04r because it is e0. So he swapped to the 7163 so he can run it very mild on that shitty fuel and make 400hp. If he could get e85 like you Americans I bet he would have stayed
#1435
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And it's a $1700 difference. You can not compare the 2 turbos
#1438
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#1440
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#1441
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I never felt ripped off with the k04R, there was definitely horsepower gains over the stock turbo. as km043 has stated i live in a place that has 91 octane or less equivalent gas at sea level. i got bored of the power and ultimately had a choice to make, stay with the k04r and add meth injection or go with a bigger turbo and keep things simple. i though it would make more sence to run a big turbo at 60% then to try and push a small turbo for all it has(given my fuel crisis).
#1443
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#1444
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Don't forget this is the cobalt crowd, they're mostly cheap bastards who think spending $2000 on a new ball bearing turbo is expensive, so the $600ish for the k04r is still expensive because well my car already has a k04 and I don't understand what holding boost through 7k means
#1445
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Don't forget this is the cobalt crowd, they're mostly cheap bastards who think spending $2000 on a new ball bearing turbo is expensive, so the $600ish for the k04r is still expensive because well my car already has a k04 and I don't understand what holding boost through 7k means
#1446
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This car made 371/383 and picked up power everywhere on 93 octane. Broadened power band too. If the K04R is bigger, I expect at least 385-390whp on ethanol.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...esults-316888/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...esults-316888/
#1447
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This car made 371/383 and picked up power everywhere on 93 octane. Broadened power band too. If the K04R is bigger, I expect at least 385-390whp on ethanol.
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...esults-316888/
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/dyno...esults-316888/
#1448
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No reason to believe this turbo won't be capable of carrying at least 370ish to 6800 or so.
#1449
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I'm on E with a updated 24psi tune till I put sensors on and I love it pulls so much harder and smoother and I can actually can use second gear and get full boost till 7k!!
#1450
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Turbo was well worth the wait! Gains were HUGE throughout the PB and peak!
Here's the results thus far. Need to adjust the WG rod for more boost as I refuse to crank on the WG solenoid via HPT past a certain point. Currently sitting at 23psi, 20* of timing and just bumped mid-range timing up significantly (no new numbers). Updates to come after we get the WG adjusted properly. I'm estimating at least 380whp.
Also, ran a lightly modded V2 CTS-V auto and was able to pull 2-3 cars by 125 (No NLS) from about 40mph or so on the stock turbo tune while data logging
All graphs posted are from Virtual Dyno and were run on the exact same road.
Here's the transformation of the car. Please do remember that I use a pretty significant torque modulation strategy or "boost ramp" to try and keep the clutch and transmission happy on ALL of the graphs below.
Pump gas tune was 12* of timing and 22-23psi
E35 tune was 22* of timing but weak mid range and 22-23psi
K04R tune is 20* of timing, same weak mid range and a solid 23psi
91 oct intake, DP and tune vs E35 tune (weight is more because we were both in the car)
Untuned K04R vs Tuned K04R vs E35 Stock turbo
Tuned K04R vs 91 octane intake, DP and tune
Here's the results thus far. Need to adjust the WG rod for more boost as I refuse to crank on the WG solenoid via HPT past a certain point. Currently sitting at 23psi, 20* of timing and just bumped mid-range timing up significantly (no new numbers). Updates to come after we get the WG adjusted properly. I'm estimating at least 380whp.
Also, ran a lightly modded V2 CTS-V auto and was able to pull 2-3 cars by 125 (No NLS) from about 40mph or so on the stock turbo tune while data logging
All graphs posted are from Virtual Dyno and were run on the exact same road.
Here's the transformation of the car. Please do remember that I use a pretty significant torque modulation strategy or "boost ramp" to try and keep the clutch and transmission happy on ALL of the graphs below.
Pump gas tune was 12* of timing and 22-23psi
E35 tune was 22* of timing but weak mid range and 22-23psi
K04R tune is 20* of timing, same weak mid range and a solid 23psi
91 oct intake, DP and tune vs E35 tune (weight is more because we were both in the car)
Untuned K04R vs Tuned K04R vs E35 Stock turbo
Tuned K04R vs 91 octane intake, DP and tune