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Old 05-26-2015, 04:11 PM
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Virtual dyno doesn't count! Get on a real dyno.. lol
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Virtual dyno doesn't count! Get on a real dyno.. lol
Good as it's going to get until mine is done

Besides, the numbers the car posted and the graphs themselves aren't out of the norm and if anything, are exactly in line for what the LNF is capable of with the mods posted.

This is just simply a way of showing people, it does what it was advertised as. Good power increase throughout and carries power nicely. Can't complain with 30-35whp gains throughout the curve and over 50whp from 5500 to 6500

You can also see that there wasn't any fudging or anything of the sort on vehicle weight, baro etc. I used the same road on all runs as well. All of that equals consistency when using Virtual Dyno. Throw me a bone man!

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Originally Posted by T-Man
Good as it's going to get until mine is done

Besides, the numbers the car posted and the graphs themselves aren't out of the norm and if anything, are exactly in line for what the LNF is capable of with the mods posted.

This is just simply a way of showing people, it does what it was advertised as. Good power increase throughout and carries power nicely. Can't complain with 30-35whp gains throughout the curve and over 50whp from 5500 to 6500

You can also see that there wasn't any fudging or anything of the sort on vehicle weight, baro etc. I used the same road on all runs as well. All of that equals consistency when using Virtual Dyno. Throw me a bone man!
I can't remember is that with the new actuator?
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I can't remember is that with the new actuator?
Yep. Working to adjust the WG rod (thanks for your help). We adjusted it before installation but obviously not enough. We adjusted it again yesterday and saw a 1.5lb increase. Going to adjust one more time and then re-work the WGDC table with HPT.
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Originally Posted by T-Man
Yep. Working to adjust the WG rod (thanks for your help). We adjusted it before installation but obviously not enough. We adjusted it again yesterday and saw a 1.5lb increase. Going to adjust one more time and then re-work the WGDC table with HPT.
Haha no prob happy I could help. You should be seeing more boost than that I hold 26psi at redline on 97% WGDC
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Haha no prob happy I could help. You should be seeing more boost than that I hold 26psi at redline on 97% WGDC
That's the next step. WGDC is currently sitting around 77 ramping to 79.5 at peak
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Originally Posted by T-Man
That's the next step. WGDC is currently sitting around 77 ramping to 79.5 at peak
What's your altitude?
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What's your altitude?
1200ft
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1200ft
Ok then I'm at 3300 or something
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Originally Posted by T-Man
Good as it's going to get until mine is done

Besides, the numbers the car posted and the graphs themselves aren't out of the norm and if anything, are exactly in line for what the LNF is capable of with the mods posted.

This is just simply a way of showing people, it does what it was advertised as. Good power increase throughout and carries power nicely. Can't complain with 30-35whp gains throughout the curve and over 50whp from 5500 to 6500

You can also see that there wasn't any fudging or anything of the sort on vehicle weight, baro etc. I used the same road on all runs as well. All of that equals consistency when using Virtual Dyno. Throw me a bone man!
Haha.. I'm partly teasing and partly serious. In part because of how inconsistent VD can be at time, and also due to how easily the numbers can be skewed in any one way. Not to mention, I had noticed that your weights aren't all consistent, which, of course, will skew results greatly.

Either way. I don't doubt in the least that this turbo has gains over the k04. I'm just not the biggest proponent of VD when it comes to comparing "real world" dyno numbers, so to speak. I do however understand that making comparisons with VD vs an actual dyno is significantly less expensive. So I certainly can't fault you for the effort.
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I've used VD quite a bit and have basically found that if you can keep everything consistent and use an extremely flat road with no dips or bumps and you keep your weights and all your inputs consistent that it can be a great tool. But things have to be consistent and flat or there will be large swings. Looking through my old VD graphs my car made almost the exact same power in VD on every boost level as it does on my real dyno, which is pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Haha.. I'm partly teasing and partly serious. In part because of how inconsistent VD can be at time, and also due to how easily the numbers can be skewed in any one way. Not to mention, I had noticed that your weights aren't all consistent, which, of course, will skew results greatly.
I understand and knew you were poking fun but semi-serious. I used the same exact road and did everything I could to keep it all consistent. The only weight difference is the E35 run as both my pops and I were in the car, which I made sure to disclose at the beginning.

Originally Posted by 09CobaltSS1
Either way. I don't doubt in the least that this turbo has gains over the k04. I'm just not the biggest proponent of VD when it comes to comparing "real world" dyno numbers, so to speak. I do however understand that making comparisons with VD vs an actual dyno is significantly less expensive. So I certainly can't fault you for the effort.
Gotta work with what I've got my friend! Appreciate the bone!


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I've used VD quite a bit and have basically found that if you can keep everything consistent and use an extremely flat road with no dips or bumps and you keep your weights and all your inputs consistent that it can be a great tool. But things have to be consistent and flat or there will be large swings. Looking through my old VD graphs my car made almost the exact same power in VD on every boost level as it does on my real dyno, which is pretty cool.
Yes sir, I've found this to be the case as well. This is why you will see almost all of the variables in the graphs I posted the same, except for the one I made note of. All runs on the same stretch of road, baro readings, temps, weight etc.

However, I can definitely understand peoples skepticism. Everyone on the internet has 1000whp, weighs 250lbs at 5% BF, is 6'5" and bench presses everyone's mom.
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I just sold Nathan's K04r to a local guy. Guess we'll see how that turns out soon
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Originally Posted by InfraRedline
I've used VD quite a bit and have basically found that if you can keep everything consistent and use an extremely flat road with no dips or bumps and you keep your weights and all your inputs consistent that it can be a great tool. But things have to be consistent and flat or there will be large swings. Looking through my old VD graphs my car made almost the exact same power in VD on every boost level as it does on my real dyno, which is pretty cool.
See I've had such mixed results with VD that I basically gave up on it. Keeping everything as consistent as humanly possible, I've had say Car "A" give me relatively "believable" outputs, then Car "B" literally make over 1,000,000hp!! lol No joke! Once I started seeing the numbers randomly get out of hand like that, I just gave up on it.
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That's very odd. I've been using it for years on Evo's and Subaru's and have had great luck. Oh well, I have my own dyno now for 2WD vehicles so I guess that's one way to keep it consistent
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Finishing up my install of the k04r tomorrow. I'll get a a few logs done gonna have to boost ramp ot pretty good since I have a stock clutch. And it's starting to slip. But I'm hoping by end of June I'll have dyno numbers. Would be sooner, but I have some military training coming up which I'll be gone for about 2-3 weeks. And won't be able to do any data logging or tuning. So July will be my dyno numbers. Hoping for 360 on pump. And 390 on E. I dynoed 350 stock turbo. So we shall see I'll be going to the same dyno. I realize not the same day, but atleast same dyno.
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WANT!!

I might just buy this turbo, which appears to be a nice upgrade over stock and at a reasonable price, so it is on hand when I rip the turbo and manifold out to inspect. Having serious boost issues and I've checked everything that's easily accessible; made a boost leak jig, no leaks on stock IC and piping @ 25PSI. Wiggled them around while under pressure, no leaks heard or seen. Checked wastegate solenoid, working fine and routes air/holds vacuum properly. Actuator looks OK as well. I have a touch of white smoke at an idle and oil on turbo air inlet

If everything seems fine, can I install this turbo on top of say, a Trifecta tune and it will be moderately driveable? I then want a nice tune like the rest of you. Though by the looks of this thread, most of you do your own tuning. Know any good tuners in the Long Island, NY area?
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Originally Posted by Turbo Johnny
WANT!!

I might just buy this turbo, which appears to be a nice upgrade over stock and at a reasonable price, so it is on hand when I rip the turbo and manifold out to inspect. Having serious boost issues and I've checked everything that's easily accessible; made a boost leak jig, no leaks on stock IC and piping @ 25PSI. Wiggled them around while under pressure, no leaks heard or seen. Checked wastegate solenoid, working fine and routes air/holds vacuum properly. Actuator looks OK as well. I have a touch of white smoke at an idle and oil on turbo air inlet

If everything seems fine, can I install this turbo on top of say, a Trifecta tune and it will be moderately driveable? I then want a nice tune like the rest of you. Though by the looks of this thread, most of you do your own tuning. Know any good tuners in the Long Island, NY area?
With a trifecta tune it should work just fine if u slap it on the car. Hpt will just bring out the potential in the k04r. Even with ur current tune you will probably gain some power definitely on the top end.
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How much should the waste gate get adjusted?
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Loosen the nuts on the actuator pull the wastegate arm towards the actuator bring the nut to the arm then back off 2 to 4 turns towards the actuator and tighten everything up
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K04R acquired! Should be arriving in the mail Thursday

Looks like mid 300s are easy with this turbo, I am quite impressed! So this upgraded compressor wheel is a lot better than the stock K04 then?
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K04R acquired! Should be arriving in the mail Thursday

Looks like mid 300s are easy with this turbo, I am quite impressed! So this upgraded compressor wheel is a lot better than the stock K04 then?
Paired with the actuator it's really fun!
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I have 2 used k04rs for sale $350+ shipping
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I have 2 used k04rs for sale $350+ shipping
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Damn i wish i could pick one up


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