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How the hell did I lose to a stock Caliber SRT-4?

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Old 05-12-2010 | 10:06 AM
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FYI even a Realtune stage 1 CSRT would appear to be stock unless you were looking really hard...and knew what you were looking for.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:06 AM
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he probably did, but this whole thing pisses me off in the first place because of all the money I spent and expect to get good results out of the deal. The Injen wasn't a waste, I had to disagree with that guy who drove the blue SRT-4 who is in the high 12's. He thinks he knows it all about what the Cobalt SS/TC's are capable of compare to the SRT-4's. Thinks the Injen CP makes no difference and the CAI would make a huge difference over the CP.

You keep mentioning all of the money you spent on mods. I'm confused as i see little to no mods in your sig. a intake and stage 1? No offense but thats barely **** in the world of modding a car. I scanned over your first post and kept seeing you mention all of the money you spent on mods and was expecting some huge list...

I doubt the SRT-4 was stock, but at the same time you got sandbagged why are you pissed? You won't win every race. Hell i don't win every race, there is always someone faster.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:09 AM
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his psi says it all. I don't know what the stock psi is on the calibers, but I know the 04-05's SRT-4 Neons and they run 13.7 stock with the Mopar Stage 1 Fuel Injectors and Quaffe LSD @10psi without doing any mods and that's why I respect those over the Calibers. I think Calibers as bulky and ugly and heavy set vehicle for all that power with too much weight.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:12 AM
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this are some things you could had missed by looking under his hood. intercooler, dp, and maybe hidden nitrous lines...seen it happen quite alot and yes the tune which theres no way of knowing. just like that they can tell u there stock but its bs. i know for sure stock vs stock an LNF can take Csrt4
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:15 AM
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You keep mentioning all of the money you spent on mods. I'm confused as i see little to no mods in your sig. a intake and stage 1? No offense but thats barely **** in the world of modding a car. I scanned over your first post and kept seeing you mention all of the money you spent on mods and was expecting some huge list...

I doubt the SRT-4 was stock, but at the same time you got sandbagged why are you pissed? You won't win every race. Hell i don't win every race, there is always someone faster.
See $200 for TWM, $400 GMS1, $200 Injen CP, and $270 Hahn, without shipping charges. Total of $1070. Its in my signature editing with mods I done that are still currently on, except for the DEPO's because I have Gestopo007 working on them.

My guess for his mods is Mopar Stage 1 and that's it. I looked under his hood and notice his SRT-4 cover was missing, but no mods. He probably had a stage 1 and didn't know it, because he recently gotten the car with the 30day tag on it. He told me he done no exhaust work yet.

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Old 05-12-2010 | 10:18 AM
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i say u get a DP, retune, redyno and get back at him.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:20 AM
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agreed. gonna to saw off the muffler on the stock exhuast with the new Dynomax VT and put the ZZP pipe on with blueberry's tune. Rerun him again.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:22 AM
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Best way to find out if it was you or him, go to the track and check your numbers.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:24 AM
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this Caliber was stock like my car has Charge piping only......which is what I tell most people, lol

looks mean nothing, you can't see a tune
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:28 AM
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right now I can't do anything because I'm unemployed and got to find a job first before I do any future mods. I've been out of work for 2 weeks. Just going to go catless with ZZP, which I'm sure they are looking at this forum and saying, "you should have saved and went with us, but you didn't and you got owned."
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:32 AM
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just cut off the whole exhaust and put a straight pipe instead of DP LOL...it'll just get annoying after a while but would be cheaper for sure lol
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:34 AM
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LOL, then you got to deal with the Green Martians (environmentalist)
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:40 AM
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Even with those few mods you're not running much power. With just my Trifecta tune I'm pushing 30 more horse to the wheels than you are. Go get the thing a real tune on top of your GM stage 1 and then work on the down pipe. Not to mention that once I hit 4th gear my psi goes from 22ish up to 27psi for a while before the turbo falls on its face in the high RPM's.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:44 AM
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Its been said over and over already but, his PSI says it all. It had a tune on it at least. Also, a catless dp and a tune does wonders for our cars. The dp is the one of the single most important parts to upgrade from a performance standpoint. Even with the stock dp you can get better numbers with a protune(Trifecta/HPTuners) rather than GMS1. The TWM is a nice mod but not performance oriented.

Good luck with the job hunt!
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:44 AM
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I was thinking about going to complete Hahn exhaust with the catted DP from them with the Trifecta tune and have it activated in competitive mode and I would be set.
Old 05-12-2010 | 10:46 AM
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Its been said over and over already but, his PSI says it all. It had a tune on it at least. Also, a catless dp and a tune does wonders for our cars. The dp is the one of the single most important parts to upgrade from a performance standpoint. Even with the stock dp you can get better numbers with a protune(Trifecta/HPTuners) rather than GMS1. The TWM is a nice mod but not performance oriented.

Good luck with the job hunt!
I love the TWM STS, I believe its far superior STS over other STS brands (Hurst and B&M) in our cars. Its good for shift timing with great mods to add on with it.
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by efactor
I love the TWM STS, I believe its far superior STS over other STS brands (Hurst and B&M) in our cars. Its good for shift timing with great mods to add on with it.
Agreed. TWM is the only short shifter I would purchase if I were to get one. Its a future mod I have in mind. In fact, I am already running the solid bushings. That being said, its not gonna get you that extra 30whp to get to 300, that, a tune and a dp would.
If you are trying to keep your warranty I can see why the GMS1 is important to you though.Doesnt sound like you were that far behind the csrt4 anyways. He just got you in the top end.

PS what finish did you get on your shifter?
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:09 AM
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Just the Aluminum M1 Abrams RL (spherical) Shift Knob from TWM. I love it. yeah the caliber got me at top end in the race when I was in 4th gear. Gosh my mind keeps going back saying I should have gotten this and that and saved so much like ZZP catless DP, ZZP CP, and the new intake tube from ZZP and keep the KN drop in filter without sawing the snorkel off. God that is getting on my annoying nerves, I'm sure everyone goes through this after they lose a close race.
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:12 AM
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I wouldn't sweat it unless you are really just that bad of a driver.

I dyno'd 243HP , 228TQ with pulled timing due to a broken water pump. So, figure about 255-260hp after I fixed it. And I used to pull on Caliber SRT-4's and Cobalt TC's pretty easily.

Using that as a reference there is no way you should have lost if he really was stock.
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:15 AM
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First off you are stupid for street racing, second off, He is either tuned or your car is slow via tune. Bro dont race on the street unless you wanna die or you want to kill somone. take it to the track!
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by efactor
See $200 for TWM, $400 GMS1, $200 Injen CP, and $270 Hahn, without shipping charges. Total of $1070. Its in my signature editing with mods I done that are still currently on, except for the DEPO's because I have Gestopo007 working on them.

My guess for his mods is Mopar Stage 1 and that's it. I looked under his hood and notice his SRT-4 cover was missing, but no mods. He probably had a stage 1 and didn't know it, because he recently gotten the car with the 30day tag on it. He told me he done no exhaust work yet.
I didnt count the TWM because its negligible for performance, as is the DEPO does nothing for performance. The CP... well its near worth northing but looks.

So you have a intake/tune for performance mods really. As far as Mopar Stage 1, i dont remember the stage 1 hitting 19psi.
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:26 AM
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I wasn't referring DEPO for performance. Its just a thing on my signature that I haven't yet updated. All the mods done to the car listed minus the Gen4's. The HID's 35w help a little to take a little juice off your battery compare to regular halogens 55w.
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevycobaltss3
First off you are stupid for street racing, second off, He is either tuned or your car is slow via tune. Bro dont race on the street unless you wanna die or you want to kill somone. take it to the track!
he was in mexico on highway 321 its ok
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:28 AM
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the only way ill like racing at the track is if or when i go with a AWD or RWD car. am not into dig racing in the balt. rolling races are the best in my opinion
Old 05-12-2010 | 11:29 AM
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i will say the srt motor is fast. my buddy has one in a pt cruiser and its stock with a auto tranny and when he wants to it will spin at a 20 launch. but he is not pushing 19psi and a cobalt pushing 22 should leave it sit. its not stock


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