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Old 08-20-2012 | 01:04 AM
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Meth Injection

I see very few LNF's with meth.... Why is this?? There is one gas station with e85 here so I am thinking about meth instead of that... Maybe.. Any disadvantages or anything to worry about with meth on our cars? How much more power should I expect to see if I do take this into action? What kind of Meth kits do you guys use?? I seen some videos on youtube of the new EFR with meth.... pretty rad
Old 08-20-2012 | 01:11 AM
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Ok...
1) Meth does not add power when just slapped on, you need to have your car tuned for this. When you tune you are able to run better timing and all around create a more aggressive tune.
2) Many LNF's don't run it because it seems like most LNF's are running E haha
3) I myself had a AIS Stage 2 on my TVS LSJ, it was a great kit with no problems
4) Read up on the ****, the last thing anyone needs to see is a famous "Cobe" thread about how ur meth didn't turn on and car went boom haha
Old 08-20-2012 | 01:15 AM
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Cobe,

1. Stop smoking meth
2. Meth is less convenient than E
3. Stop smoking meth
Old 08-20-2012 | 01:18 AM
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Ok...
1) Meth does not add power when just slapped on, you need to have your car tuned for this. When you tune you are able to run better timing and all around create a more aggressive tune.
2) Many LNF's don't run it because it seems like most LNF's are running E haha
3) I myself had a AIS Stage 2 on my TVS LSJ, it was a great kit with no problems
4) Read up on the ****, the last thing anyone needs to see is a famous "Cobe" thread about how ur meth didn't turn on and car went boom haha
Hahaha I Love being a well know member on here with a nice whip and yeah I know you have to be tunned for it ... Just seems more reasonable when there is one gas station with Ewithin 50 miles... I'm gonna check all the gas stations within time because meth or e won't be happening for a couple months.. Lol I mean with a e47 tune and there is no E around can I just fill her up with all 93? I have always wanted to know that.. How much power is meth adding to lnfs?

Originally Posted by Aleksey
Cobe,

1. Stop smoking meth
2. Meth is less convenient than E
3. Stop smoking meth
I don't smoke meth.. I roll on the E at raves! Hahahaha

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Old 08-20-2012 | 01:26 AM
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Hahaha I Love being a well know member on here with a nice whip and yeah I know you have to be tunned for it ... Just seems more reasonable when there is one gas station with Ewithin 50 miles... I'm gonna check all the gas stations within time because meth or e won't be happening for a couple months.. Lol I mean with a e47 tune and there is no E around can I just fill her up with all 93? I have always wanted to know that.. How much power is meth adding to lnfs?
If you are tuned on e47 (1:1 93:e85) you can't just fill it with 93 haha, like I said before, meth does not add power just by using it. Depends on what you are using it for also, the results will vary depending on the tune. Great person to talk to would be 100%meth
Old 08-20-2012 | 01:31 AM
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If you are tuned on e47 (1:1 93:e85) you can't just fill it with 93 haha, like I said before, meth does not add power just by using it. Depends on what you are using it for also, the results will vary depending on the tune. Great person to talk to would be 100%meth
Every time I'm at my buddy's house his ******* friend is over and tells me to get a intercooler and spray nitrous into it -__- I'm like no I'll go meth or E. but alright I'm just figuring stuff out cause it's pretty easy to go fully bolted... But after that the the big money comes.. So I'll probably be bolted and stay that way for a long long time. Are people getting more gains out of meth tunes then e tunes?
Old 08-20-2012 | 03:33 AM
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I JUST installed a Turbonetics Progressive kit on mine Saturday. I got the kit brand new for $250 from someone in the Mustang forums.

Most people are going to say go with E, blah blah blah.
Well, here's my stance. I have an E station nearby but what happens if I want to take a trip and there is no E when I need it?
I really don't care to get a retune for it either and to have a non-E tune selectable with an E-tune. Screw that.

I bought my kit as "insurance" - not for power. If you're looking for power you'll have to tune for it. But you'll also have to tune for E. If you try to tune as aggressive as you can for the Meth then yes, if it fails then you can have real problems. I don't know about anyone else but I personally keep a very close eye on my car. I watch the gauges and NEVER assume that everything is just going to be butter every day. I check it because we're not driving stock Camry's here.

I DID gain power (Not TECHNICALLY) without tuning for it and I'll tell you why. I was seeing knock in the midranges. 3k rpm to 4.5k rpm. Anywhere from 2.9 to 6 on the gauge. It didn't matter if I ran 91 from a top tier station or 93 if I could actually FIND it. Really didn't help. I added the meth kit (which ALWAYS make sure you get a progressive kit!). I dialed it in so the knock is no longer present. The ECU doesn't pull timing any more and it DOES run harder! I use blue -20 washer fluid and I can stop into ANY gas station and find that.
Like I said earlier... I just keep an eye on it. I never assume. If I start to see knock then I know something is up.

That's just my .02

Nothing WRONG with E of course but it just seemed too much a PIA for me personally. I'm quite satisfied with my setup.

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Old 08-20-2012 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Zander916
Turbonetics Water Injection Kit

I JUST installed one of these kits on mine Saturday. I got the kit brand new for $250 from someone in the Mustang forums.

Most people are going to say go with E, blah blah blah.
Well, here's my stance. I have an E station nearby but what happens if I want to take a trip and there is no E when I need it?
I really don't care to get a retune for it either and to have a non-E tune selectable with an E-tune. Screw that.

I bought my kit as "insurance" - not for power. If you're looking for power you'll have to tune for it. But you'll also have to tune for E. If you try to tune as aggressive as you can for the Meth then yes, if it fails then you can have real problems. I don't know about anyone else but I personally keep a very close eye on my car. I watch the gauges and NEVER assume that everything is just going to be butter every day. I check it because we're not driving stock Camry's here.

I DID gain power (Not TECHNICALLY) without tuning for it and I'll tell you why. I was seeing knock in the midranges. 3k rpm to 4.5k rpm. Anywhere from 2.9 to 6 on the gauge. It didn't matter if I ran 91 from a top tier station or 93 if I could actually FIND it. Really didn't help. I added the meth kit (which ALWAYS make sure you get a progressive kit!). I dialed it in so the knock is no longer present. The ECU doesn't pull timing any more and it DOES run harder! I use blue -20 washer fluid and I can stop into ANY gas station and find that.
Like I said earlier... I just keep an eye on it. I never assume. If I start to see knock then I know something is up.

That's just my .02

Nothing WRONG with E of course but it just seemed too much a PIA for me personally. I'm quite satisfied with my setup.
What do you mean you bought it for insurance?? And what is a progressive meth kit ? Is it that much different then a normal meth kit?
Old 08-20-2012 | 11:20 AM
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He just said it. what he means by he bought it for insurance is he bought it to lower his knock.
oh and some responses here have been hilarious lol
Old 08-20-2012 | 11:25 AM
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Meth allows you to add a bit more timing safely, but when it runs out you're in for a world of trouble.

e85 or e47 blends allow you to run even more timing safely, and you don't have to worry about it unexpectedly running out, because when you run out of that the car just dies anyways. And like someone else mentioned you won't want to just through straight 93 into your car with an e blend tune on it. That's just as bad as tuning for meth and running without the meth when it runs out.

Each has it's pros and cons you just have to decide which is more worth your time.
Old 08-20-2012 | 11:37 AM
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Running E47 is like making your milkshake, instead you're blending two fuels together versus a bunch of random ****. You might be able to handle it.
Old 08-20-2012 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobe
Every time I'm at my buddy's house his ******* friend is over and tells me to get a intercooler and spray nitrous into it -__- I'm like no I'll go meth or E. but alright I'm just figuring stuff out cause it's pretty easy to go fully bolted... But after that the the big money comes.. So I'll probably be bolted and stay that way for a long long time. Are people getting more gains out of meth tunes then e tunes?
not INTO it but ON IT. this actually helps cool down the air temps really well. so what he is saying is a good idea. they sell kits that do this.
Old 08-20-2012 | 01:25 PM
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not INTO it but ON IT. this actually helps cool down the air temps really well. so what he is saying is a good idea. they sell kits that do this.
I would like to see it be done
Old 08-20-2012 | 03:03 PM
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I run meth in my LNF. Bought it just to keep things "safe" and ended up getting a ****-ton more timing from it becasue I'm hungry for power and the excitment of danger!!! I run an AEM Progressive Kit from Modern Performance and a 7GPH nozzel at the bend before the TB in the lower charge pipe. I use SnoPerformance 49/51 Meth/Water premixed. So far so good after about 3 solid months of DD use.

I just keep an eye on the level in the tank and an extra gallon of meth for safety. I have about 3/4 of a gallon left in my tank that's mounted on the back of the seat in the trunk, 1 extra gallon in the trunk and 1 more gallon at home...... looks like I need to buy more lol.
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Methanol Injection : Water Injection : DevilsOwn Alcohol Injection - DevilsOwn Injection

I have the 2.5 gallon trunk mount with 2.5 bar kit.

Just make sure you keep an eye on the system and I recommend a flow gauge!
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Originally Posted by Gunney_07
Methanol Injection : Water Injection : DevilsOwn Alcohol Injection - DevilsOwn Injection

I have the 2.5 gallon trunk mount with 2.5 bar kit.

Just make sure you keep an eye on the system and I recommend a flow gauge!
^This! Big time!

I don't care if you have a light that tells you it's "on", I actually had the line pop out of the nozzle holder on mine once and I did't know - good thing it was while I first started tuning for it and I was wondering why my fuel trims never changed lol.

Flow gauge gives you a fighting chance if something goes wrong.
Old 08-20-2012 | 04:31 PM
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^This! Big time!

I don't care if you have a light that tells you it's "on", I actually had the line pop out of the nozzle holder on mine once and I did't know - good thing it was while I first started tuning for it and I was wondering why my fuel trims never changed lol.

Flow gauge gives you a fighting chance if something goes wrong.

yup and if u have or think about the aem kit which i have and run with the efr they have a fail safe which detects if something goes wrong and puts ur car into a limp mode to save ur motor .. i love running meth couse i dont have e85 lol but its worth it imo ... just have to keep up with it and make sure everything is in working order..
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All you need is a spoon, lighter and a syringe boi. and some dope but im sure a kid like you knows all the hookups
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Cobe, if you go with meth, just make sure that mommy is prepared to take you to lacrosse practice again, while ZZP fixes your car......again
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lucky for me meth is cheap as hell and is abundant to get and E85 is right on base for me...i got best of both worlds
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Cobe, if you go with meth, just make sure that mommy is prepared to take you to lacrosse practice again, while ZZP fixes your car......again
My friend your an idiot.. Your one of the people who guesses they know you about how little they read and your completely way off...

1)soccer
2)I did the turbo swap ZZP dropped my deca cycle 20% so it opened my wastegate
3) I did the turbo swap
4) I did the turbo swap
Old 08-21-2012 | 06:52 PM
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I don't smoke meth.. I roll on the E at raves! Hahahaha
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Fail #1-being born
Fail #2-continuing to breath our air after being born
Fail #3-every post you've contributed to this forum

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That is all
Old 08-21-2012 | 09:44 PM
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I would like to see it be done
youtube is amazing....

DEi Cry02 System on intercooler-desktop.m4v - YouTube

this is CO2 but they sell them for nitrous too.
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Originally Posted by hotshoe18
I don't smoke meth.. I roll on the E at raves! Hahahaha
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Fail #1-being born
Fail #2-continuing to breath our air after being born
Fail #3-every post you've contributed to this forum

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That is all
Well Jesus H. Christ boy, how are you going to come at someone and bash them for anything they contributed to this forum when you have more fingers than posts? Boy that's like a jack rabbit telling a jack ass he has long ears....

Back to the subject at hand, Cobe I'm in the same boat as you we have 1 E85 station in town, it's maybe 10mi from my house yet I only drive a total of 10mi a day, it would work for me but I'd hate to be tied to one station. I'm still gathering my info on meth kits, I know my way around meth injection I'm just curious about some of the more "high end kits"

-Alex
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Originally Posted by Cobe
My friend your an idiot.. Your one of the people who guesses they know you about how little they read and your completely way off...

1)soccer
2)I did the turbo swap ZZP dropped my deca cycle 20% so it opened my wastegate
3) I did the turbo swap
4) I did the turbo swap

YOU'RE not YOUR.... He isn't YOUR idiot...



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