thinkin bout building the balt
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thinkin bout building the balt
thinking about slowly buying the parts i need to build my motor, and maybe by the time the zzps efr comes out ill have everything and get someone to do it for me since i know **** about working on the inside of a motor. may be waiting a long time lol
so what all do i need? pistons, rods, new gaskets, anything else? probably gonna get a new head as well.
so what all do i need? pistons, rods, new gaskets, anything else? probably gonna get a new head as well.
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A new car.
For real though, I just don't see the point in building a FWD car past ~450whp. It's just no fun unless you drive around on slicks all day. You can do 420whp with a turbo swap and not really build anything if you drive smart.
To try to answer your question and avoid Trollness.... If I were building a motor, I would get a complete new (used) motor to start. That way you're not waiting bc your car is down. Next, get head stuff like cams, springs, porting done. Then look into block girdle, pistons, rods, blue printing, balancing, crank strengthening. Then start work on transmission and axles. Our brakes are good but I'm sure there are better out there which would be good to look into. Don't forget about suspension!
Somewhere you'd have to decide what kinda power you want and what you plan to do with it like drag, track, street driving then get the turbo kit that would best suit those needs.
For real though, I just don't see the point in building a FWD car past ~450whp. It's just no fun unless you drive around on slicks all day. You can do 420whp with a turbo swap and not really build anything if you drive smart.
To try to answer your question and avoid Trollness.... If I were building a motor, I would get a complete new (used) motor to start. That way you're not waiting bc your car is down. Next, get head stuff like cams, springs, porting done. Then look into block girdle, pistons, rods, blue printing, balancing, crank strengthening. Then start work on transmission and axles. Our brakes are good but I'm sure there are better out there which would be good to look into. Don't forget about suspension!
Somewhere you'd have to decide what kinda power you want and what you plan to do with it like drag, track, street driving then get the turbo kit that would best suit those needs.
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wow i just ment upgrading the pistons and rods. lol not like crazy ass build. 400whp is just fine for me, i think ill stay stock and just get my head fixed, or get a new head. seems like getting a new head will be cheaper then getting the dealer to fix it. cause they will void my warrenty, and the next dealer is an hour away.
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wow i just ment upgrading the pistons and rods. lol not like crazy ass build. 400whp is just fine for me, i think ill stay stock and just get my head fixed, or get a new head. seems like getting a new head will be cheaper then getting the dealer to fix it. cause they will void my warrenty, and the next dealer is an hour away.
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OP, will a smaller turbo be able to make 400whp on pump gas unless you are planning on running e85 or race fuel or you most likely have to push it hard, out of its efficiency range to get 400whp?
For 400whp like Frogstofall said, all you need is a turbo swap + support mods. GL
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I bet the guys on here with over 450whp has a different point of view?
OP, will a smaller turbo be able to make 400whp on pump gas unless you are planning on running e85 or race fuel or you most likely have to push it hard, out of its efficiency range to get 400whp?
For 400whp like Frogstofall said, all you need is a turbo swap + support mods. GL
OP, will a smaller turbo be able to make 400whp on pump gas unless you are planning on running e85 or race fuel or you most likely have to push it hard, out of its efficiency range to get 400whp?
For 400whp like Frogstofall said, all you need is a turbo swap + support mods. GL
#10
well the term build is so relative it just depends on who you ask.
on my car i just finished a rebuild and i did:
wiseco pistons
k1 rods
arp studs
new bearings
new oil pump
balance
crank polish
i left the head untouched for now, still not sure what i want to do next with the car as far as turbo i really only want 400 and call it a day. i would say go ahead and do the pistons and rods if you have the chance to do so your car wouldn't even be done that long especially if you have a shop doing it, it would be less than a week, two weeks tops. All my machining was done in a day and a half. But at least that way you would have less to worry about when making power on the car.
on my car i just finished a rebuild and i did:
wiseco pistons
k1 rods
arp studs
new bearings
new oil pump
balance
crank polish
i left the head untouched for now, still not sure what i want to do next with the car as far as turbo i really only want 400 and call it a day. i would say go ahead and do the pistons and rods if you have the chance to do so your car wouldn't even be done that long especially if you have a shop doing it, it would be less than a week, two weeks tops. All my machining was done in a day and a half. But at least that way you would have less to worry about when making power on the car.
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