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Old 11-07-2009, 12:29 PM
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I understand that... but we all know that is not the case... but that is paper racing for ya!
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You on DR's Cmiller?
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Obviously I don't know for sure, but I'd guess theres a lot more to it than just an XML. It seems unlikely the built in Subaru and Mitsu kernel & flashing tools would work with the E69.

Either way, I await more info and releases

Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Def is EcuFlash. I assume Vince made his own xml for the SS. Def takes a LOT of work to sit there and try and find all the hex addresses. Hats off to putting out that effort!! Sell me the xml you're using LOL
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
Yeah - that is a very big concern. Fuel getting loose under the hood at 2176+ psi would be VERY bad
How to make a Cobalt sound like a dog? WhoooF!!

I assume that this will have application only to really high boost situations?
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Great work Vince! You further the capabilities of the community even more. Thanks for all your work. Looks like I will be dropping some cash for an updated tune in the near future!
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So mabe this is a tad not topic related but anyone knows how many HP the stock engine can take?
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Originally Posted by BYT*SS*TURBO
Def is EcuFlash. I assume Vince made his own xml for the SS. Def takes a LOT of work to sit there and try and find all the hex addresses. Hats off to putting out that effort!! Sell me the xml you're using LOL
I would think this would be a very wise solution for us guys who want to tune it on our own . allthough selling the XML file he would have no way of licensing it and making a profit that XML file would be all over the interwebz before you could say XML lol


I mean vince is only one guy so if he had a few tuners sign an agreemeant of no distibution of the XML file without a licence they would be subject to severe legal actions, but still man ECU flash and the USB OBD II cable

http://www.tactrix.com/product_info....629ea1d4296531

+ his XML file would be complete win win situation and would divert most of us HPT users to his side of the game but policing it would be the hard part . Software developers could certainly find a way to keep the XML file safe but that takes bucks too ..
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How helpful do you think this will be for the people that want to run E-85?
Old 11-07-2009, 03:30 PM
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How helpful do you think this will be for the people that want to run E-85?
That's a very good question. It may be a requirement... Somewhere I got information that suggested you need about 40% more fuel flow capacity to run E85.
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EcuFlash can be licensed for closed source use, which he must've already done if hes using it to make money. Otherwise he'd be breaking the license of the open source version (have to share your code with us gimps). No XML file needed in that case, just hard code it into the app... compile.. done. That would keep 99.98% of the populace out of your work.

The only hurdle you have after that is making sure people arent flashing 69 different VIN's with the same license , but I'm guessing he has that figured out.

I bet Vince just loves us making posts like this!

Off topic, but in doing some research on the Bosch MED9.6 ECU's... did you guys know the newer Ferrari California uses essentially the same setup we do for GDI?

Originally Posted by PrincessTurbo
I would think this would be a very wise solution for us guys who want to tune it on our own . allthough selling the XML file he would have no way of licensing it and making a profit that XML file would be all over the interwebz before you could say XML lol


I mean vince is only one guy so if he had a few tuners sign an agreemeant of no distibution of the XML file without a licence they would be subject to severe legal actions, but still man ECU flash and the USB OBD II cable

http://www.tactrix.com/product_info....629ea1d4296531

+ his XML file would be complete win win situation and would divert most of us HPT users to his side of the game but policing it would be the hard part . Software developers could certainly find a way to keep the XML file safe but that takes bucks too ..
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
That's a very good question. It may be a requirement... Somewhere I got information that suggested you need about 40% more fuel flow capacity to run E85.

I am pretty sure I have access to E-85 right down the street. If you don't, and want to do a little test, let me know.
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Great job Vince!!

and these kind of threads renew my faith in this board.
there are some very intelligent people on here.

where do you guys hide during the 10 page jibber jabber threads posted in war and general.....
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
That is definately interesting. That fuel pressure drop also corresponds to a big change that the intake cam angle makes as the ECM retards it from -10 at 5K to -4 at 6K and full load. I am willing to bet that those two changes are related.



HP = Torque X RPM / 5250 so in this example HP = 320 X 7000 / 5250 which is 426.666 whp actually.
No one is making 320 TQ at 7000 RPM with stock turbo or K04.....
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Originally Posted by VinceTrifecta
I am skeptical that increasing the rail pressure will unlock any more power with the stock turbo, but certainly for people running upgraded turbos, this tweak will be a must.
Yep, i definitely thing we need to get together and do something here.

Motor is apart right now, getting wiseco pistons for some more power. I'll let you know when it's back together and we can see what we can squeeze out of this bigger turbo.

This is Richard, down in dallas btw.
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
I understand that... but we all know that is not the case... but that is paper racing for ya!
thats a scientific fact that if you make 320tq at that high of an RPM, you're making 426hp. The formula works 100% of the time... so either you dont make that amount of torque at that RPM (which is the case if you're on stock turbo) or you are somehow maing more power than anyone else on here is on the stock turbo

im gonna take a stab and say you either A: make a PEAK torque of 320tq, or B: are guessing you make 320tq at that RPM because you know that your peak torque is a good amount higher, and are assuming it cant fall off that muc
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LOL...

Dyno'd today... 363 and 393 let off at 6600 and I appologize it is 317wtq at 6600
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Originally Posted by 1badBlueberrySC
LOL...

Dyno'd today... 363 and 393 let off at 6600 and I appologize it is 317wtq at 6600
u suuure? 317tq at 6600 is 373hp. u say 363? or was that a typo

regardless, good numbers
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TRIFECTA can u tune on e85? let me knowww
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Originally Posted by rico
TRIFECTA can u tune on e85? let me knowww
ZZP can
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i know but im part of a trifecta dealer so price would be cheaper and was wondering if they did lol ya know what i mean?
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Originally Posted by rico
i know but im part of a trifecta dealer so price would be cheaper and was wondering if they did lol ya know what i mean?
Vince can do just about anything. Ive spent hours talking to him about hypothetical scenarios such as speed density tuning, 3 bar tuning, etc. setting up for e85 is not difficult. just rescale some things, add some timing, play with closed loop a bit too, and bam.
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well i got the car running at all just having a major issue with it dying out when i come to a stop or deccel idk its not safe at all either. and idle bounces like crazy so yeah
Old 11-07-2009, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by rico
well i got the car running at all just having a major issue with it dying out when i come to a stop or deccel idk its not safe at all either. and idle bounces like crazy so yeah
Rico, send me a datalog with EZ Flash when you can and we'll see what's going on with it. Thx
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u guys r insane!!!!!!


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