ss sleeper

i dont just a quick pull every once in a while you know. and it will be getting colder in a while to

Bika

iTrader: (3)

you are looking at your coolant temp. we are talking about your intake air temperature in your manifold. 185 coolant is well within good to normal.
185 iat2 would be suicide LOL.


as for injectors, my stage 2 ones were over 100% with just the 3" pulley on the gm tune. with tuning i was able to go with a 2.9 but it was still over 100% idc and 20msec pulsewidth.

if its worth doing, its worth doing it right. dont half-ass it, wait and atleast get some injectors and a tune before using a smaller pulley.

ss sleeper

yes i know this but
what i wanna know is will it be good just for daily driving and for a quick pull every onve in a while?

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

Don't beat on the car and you will be fine if you are going over 6k rpms daily you will run into problems its a matter of time.

ss sleeper

i dont beat on it. just from home to school and from to school to work and on the week ends.
just a race every once in a while. like twice a month

Darkmanx

Been running it for a year with no problems , but when i first installed it idc where at 112 idc is at 90 percent now , and my friend with a zzp computer is at 85 percent at WOT if you have a tuner he should know how to lower your idc and thats what everyone is worried about.

ss sleeper

are you running that with the stage 2 tune? also what are you mods, psi level and pwer, if you ever dynoed

Darkmanx

every bolt on besides meth and dual pass. Im boosting 16.5 i just recently changed a couple of things in the tune but i was basically running a stage 2 tune for a long time . I dynoed with stage 2 and cat back in 90 degree weather with 235 whp . Havnt dynoed again but im still on 2.85 and 42lbs last time i did a log which was a couple of days ago i was at about 90 percent idc at wot.

ss sleeper

so no cooling mod yet?
if i can find some one with hp tunners is there some way that i could get your tune

BeermanSSSC

iTrader: (1)

worst advice ever....

ss sleeper

yeah he realized like two post down lol

Darkmanx

its just a tweak stage 2 that will do you know good because every car i have been in and did a logg/ tuned have had knock at different points a.f are different and stuff like that so you have to tweak your stage 2 depending on your car or just get a real tune. seriously bro if you do not have cooling mods that pulley is doing more harm than good you might get one good run but then the heat soak is going to kill you

ShortStack

I indeed did excuse myself from that post, lol...

BeermanSSSC

iTrader: (1)

i know, i just had to comment on it. I read the next one where he realized what he said. It was too funny to pass up. lol

rrutter81

Dude ive smelled your car when we went to the bama meet from inside my cabin with the amount of richness you have. It will need a tune BADLY if you drop pulleys. If you want we can meet sometime and ill plug my hptuners up and you can do a WOT run and ill show you what i mean and the KNOCK that you WILL get.

I dont think you have a WB so i wouldnt tune it, just show you.

Try2k

I ran the 2.85 for 8 or so months in the Texas heat on the stage 2 tune and another month on the stage 3 tune. I took my car to 7k quite a bit. I had no cooling mods at the time, until about 3 months ago (dual pass).

People will tell you that you will blow or the injectors will go static above 6500, which is true. ALTHOUGH, the only people I know of (besides like a total of 2?) that have blown their motor have been on a < 2.7 pulley and 60's!!!! I have never heard of any car having real problems on 42.5lb injectors - besides injector duty percentage numbers.

Take the warnings seriously, don't take it above 6500 a lot. I regret doing it but was lucky. But also don't think its the end for your car, or that it even is that big of a risk. Its truly not.

OBVIOUSLY a real tune is the best bet, and don't think I'm arguing that. But if at the time its not possible, don't worry.

EDIT: I had a wideband and I pulled my plugs periodically. With just stage 2 it was insanely rich. With the 2.85 and stage 3 it was pretty lean. With the 2.85 and stage 2 the car liked it and ran nicely and I would keep it like that if I didn't want the 100 octane mode of stage 3

CBodnar

i am at 23k miles on 2.8 pulley still fine and on gm stg2 tune

my friend bwsw214 30k + on his 2.8 and gm stg2 tune

know of a kid with 40k + still on gm stg2 + 2.8 and still fine

ralliartist

you are a brave soul, 2.8 on 42lb injectors, stage 2 tune, and nitrous.

CBodnar

lol, yeah. i have too many people i know on gm tune running 2.8

none of them have had problems other than minor stuff. like clogged cat blah blah.

then again though i believe stock exhaust at 260whp or less is fine and if you upgrade you become slower in a race from 40-100something. proven it unless all the cobalts i've done this with are retarded lol. have 3 balts that are all intake, 2.8, gm stage 2 on stock exhausts. those guys bought aftermarket dp's and exhausts and ended up putting back stock. same day races and once they put the stock one back on it went faster and we were even again.

also i am heading down the shore now i wish i could of went to the track with paul so we could of got me on video tape. g/f's decision but then again i love her so i can't hate her for it

ralliartist

you got to tune for those parts. The gm stage tune isn't meant for the bolt on parts. If they got a real tune, they would be much faster.

berto

You Need Bigger Injectors..maybe A Tune Too

ralliartist

for reference, I would get beat by an srt 4 with a **** ton of mods by like 6 cars, after my tune, I only got beat by 1 car. That's from a roll of course.

same with a turbo civic. He would beat me by 1 car, after tune, I put 3-4 cars on him easily.

tuning is key! You yourself would be surprised how much you would pick up from a good tune, probably hit those 11sec times that you want.

theneelster

Temps on the stage 2 pulley should be around 140-150. With a 2.9 I get around 150-160. That's with WOT runs. I won't say "bump down .1 inch get 10 degrees more" but it's a possibility. That's in sw pa. You really don't want to get anywhere near 200 but the threshold for the computer to step in and turn on the fans to cool your engine down is 220 stock (as far as I remember).

ss sleeper

dude i dint go to the bama meet lol

M-Dub

I ran a 2.85 for about 3 months before I got tuned and yes my injectors were more pissed off than a weasle on speed in a small cat carrier! But it's up to you, I personally wouldn't do it and you won't get much more performance than the 2.9 which is safer on the S2 tune!