300+ horse on the m62...
09-01-2011, 10:02 AM
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300+ horse on the m62...
looking for input on guys who are over 300 on the m62... how you got there what you all got done cheapest way and what product gave you the biggest gain...also how safe is your set up...
09-01-2011, 10:29 AM
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theres only one or two people that have reach that power on an m62 that i know of. one thing is for sure, it wont be cheap. and it will take just about every single possible thing to get there. from e85 and ported head as stated above to every bolt on, cooling mods and some serious tunning
09-01-2011, 10:31 AM
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Infact, there is an active member on here who is 300+whp right now with the M62.
A handful of people reached that number back in the day. It's a little easier to achieve now with E85 though.
09-01-2011, 10:32 AM
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ya u'd prbly need a very aggresive tune, probly e85 which means 80's, prbly a 2.6" pulley, then all the cooling mods to support that heat, while ur at it meth kit... spacers between the thrttle body, the supercharger... not going internals yet
09-01-2011, 10:51 AM
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In general:
Safe = a spot on tune & the proper supporting mods to handle the increased power (along with having a healthy car to begin with).
The limit of safe power depends highly on the setup.
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09-01-2011, 10:52 AM
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i bought all my parts off of a friend before he sold his car he had 317whp. while i run a detuned version of his set up his was:zzp shorty, catless 3inch downpipe, gmpp exhaust, 2.6 pulley, meth, ALL cooling mods, 3 inch intake, valve springs, aggressive tune
easiest way, e85, ported head, 2.7 pulley, exhaust mods.
easiest way, e85, ported head, 2.7 pulley, exhaust mods.
09-01-2011, 11:05 AM
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i bought all my parts off of a friend before he sold his car he had 317whp. while i run a detuned version of his set up his was:zzp shorty, catless 3inch downpipe, gmpp exhaust, 2.6 pulley, meth, ALL cooling mods, 3 inch intake, valve springs, aggressive tune
easiest way, e85, ported head, 2.7 pulley, exhaust mods.
easiest way, e85, ported head, 2.7 pulley, exhaust mods.
That sounds like either 06Blacks old setup or Ecojoey's (Slowlsj's Redline Forums) old setup.
09-01-2011, 11:31 AM
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zzp makes the cams. those are the only ones iv done research on. stage one is just a replacement preety much. allows you to run higher rpms....but stage 2 is a big upgrade... lifters retainers 78/lbs springs and cams...with head studs, preety much building top end.
09-01-2011, 11:34 AM
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now im preety new at this iv had 3 ss's but never really got deep in them... y woudl you only port exhaust side? and iv heard meth is better and also e-85 is better...opinion on one or the other? also if im gonna run higher rpms do you guys suggest the top end build?? or just...
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now im preety new at this iv had 3 ss's but never really got deep in them... y woudl you only port exhaust side? and iv heard meth is better and also e-85 is better...opinion on one or the other? also if im gonna run higher rpms do you guys suggest the top end build?? or just...
09-01-2011, 11:45 AM
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Well right to 300 is not that hard, just no one does it. Normal bolt ons, 2.8 or smaller pulley, ported head and custom cams (and supporting valves, springs, blah blah) with either meth or e85. Now to make 400 theres two choices.
The torque monster choice which will rev to 7 grand and make the power.
All of the above with an LE5 bottom end and LSJ head ported on e85. Also adjustable cam gears that will be tuned on the dyno. Note, this will require a different cam than the above setup. You will have ~11:1 compression which will make e85 required but the blower will love it.
The high rev machine
LE5 block with LSJ crank, LSJ rods, and large bore LSJ pistons with a slight dish to bring the compression down to about 10:1. This give you about a 2.1L engine. Cams (and cam gears), springs, balance shaft delete and rev it to 9 grand (you really should use a stand alone at this point). E85 again, maybe meth too. This one is more certain to make 400 hp than the LE5 bottom end setup, but its going to be peakier and higher in the rev range. This would make a better drag engine while the other setup would make and amazing auto-x/track day engine.
Reason no one's done this stuff? Its a heck of a lot more work than throwing a turbo on a stock engine and making the same peak power.
The torque monster choice which will rev to 7 grand and make the power.
All of the above with an LE5 bottom end and LSJ head ported on e85. Also adjustable cam gears that will be tuned on the dyno. Note, this will require a different cam than the above setup. You will have ~11:1 compression which will make e85 required but the blower will love it.
The high rev machine
LE5 block with LSJ crank, LSJ rods, and large bore LSJ pistons with a slight dish to bring the compression down to about 10:1. This give you about a 2.1L engine. Cams (and cam gears), springs, balance shaft delete and rev it to 9 grand (you really should use a stand alone at this point). E85 again, maybe meth too. This one is more certain to make 400 hp than the LE5 bottom end setup, but its going to be peakier and higher in the rev range. This would make a better drag engine while the other setup would make and amazing auto-x/track day engine.
Reason no one's done this stuff? Its a heck of a lot more work than throwing a turbo on a stock engine and making the same peak power.