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Old 09-13-2010, 12:48 PM
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42's and a 2.8.....

So a good friend of mine has a tune for 42's and a 2.8 from hp tuners. I am currently 42's with stock pulley, Injen CAI, ZZP S2 H/E. He has tuned my car with hp tuners using the stage 2 tune from GM which is the same for S1 and S2. So basically I am stage 1.

Question is this.

My redline has been bumped to 7200. I am concerned with running a 2.8 pulley on the
42's. I have been told it will work and several people run them. Will I run into problems assuming I run 2 heat range colder plugs, and only rev to 7000? This should be fine. Please confirm!

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i thought a 2.9 will max them out at near redline?
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Originally Posted by BumbleBee
i thought a 2.9 will max them out at near redline?
Depends on the tune. It can be done.

I would go with 60's though when using a true 2.80 (71.1mm) pulley.
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so what is different between a 2.8 and a true 2.8
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Why did you put you rev limit at 7200 on a stock head? It's not doing you any good because the motor falls on its face at 6500 anyway.
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my rev limit is 7250 but i shift right at 7 just so i wont hit limiter and i can get a bit more sometimes.
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If the tuner can tune. Then you can run 42's on a 2.8. If you do not trust him enough, then get 60's

Originally Posted by dspeed123
Why did you put you rev limit at 7200 on a stock head? It's not doing you any good because the motor falls on its face at 6500 anyway.
False

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That's false? How so?
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You'll make HP atleast up to 6.8/7k on the m62/stock head. Look at a dyno graph. TVS is dif, makes power up to 8k (limit of our PCM, well, 8,192rpm is the ACTUAL limit)
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Yeah it does make power to ~ 6700 or so but I don't see the point in bumping up the rev limit to 7000. My power fell off after 6650 on my last dyno.
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Another simple reason: Not hitting the limiter.. It's not like he's revving it out to 8k. He's not hurting it
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Another simple reason: Not hitting the limiter.. It's not like he's revving it out to 8k. He's not hurting it
thats exactly why mines at 7250 and i shift at 7
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Mine's 7.4k. I don't bounce it off the limiter (maybe 3 times on accident). It's fine
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your also TVS with ported head. Why dont you go 8k didnt area used to take his car there?
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Valvetrain. Need to upgrade my spring before I do that
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On 42's and a 2.8 my car saw IDC's of 104%
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Valvetrain. Need to upgrade my spring before I do that
so am i safe going to 7250 on stock valves then? because i heard valves float at 7k rpms.
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Were you tuned? And the IDC is a calculated value, not a true value. Were you going lean up top? Pulse Widths?

Originally Posted by Render2009
so am i safe going to 7250 on stock valves then? because i heard valves float at 7k rpms.
7.2k, or so it's said. I have hit above that numerous times tuning my personal car. No issues

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looks like ill start shifting there sometimes then. i would have already went tvs is E85 wasnt 20 miles from me. The powergains on pump fuel just aren't worth it to me so ill prolly go turbo next year.
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another benefit of reving higher is not only making power but also when you shift it drop you off in a better part of your powerband, mines set at 7400 I rarely rev that high though unless I'm in a close race, otherwise its a nice shift at 7k.
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Originally Posted by Render2009
my rev limit is 7250 but i shift right at 7 just so i wont hit limiter and i can get a bit more sometimes.
You're probably closer to 7200 than you think. The tachs can be behind what the motor is going...

Originally Posted by dspeed123
Yeah it does make power to ~ 6700 or so but I don't see the point in bumping up the rev limit to 7000. My power fell off after 6650 on my last dyno.
Just because your power fell off, doesnt mean everyone else's will. But thanks for sharing.
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No, it didn't get lean up top but I really only took that setup up to 6700 or so and my log showed 104%. It still pulled fine. That was just before I switched to 80's and e85. I'm not entirely sure if that setup was tuned either, it ran stupid rich and came on the PCM I got with the motor I picked up and put in my car.
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Originally Posted by Karlen89
Just because your power fell off, doesnt mean everyone else's will. But thanks for sharing.
excellent point
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Originally Posted by dspeed123
Why did you put you rev limit at 7200 on a stock head? It's not doing you any good because the motor falls on its face at 6500 anyway.
my last dyno on the cobalt before i sold it, i made power all the way to 7500rpm and it never dropped. i had the tvs but it never dropped, ran out of rpms
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and i wouldn't use the term "falls on its face"



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