air to air intercooler?
#1
air to air intercooler?
has anyone tried to fit an air to air intercooler in thier cobalt ss/sc yet ? Or is it possible???Will it get some good hp gains? Cuz im thinking of getting one for my cobalt.....let me now guys.
#2
It's not possible...atleast even if it was capable of being done, it would defeat the whole point of having a roots type supercharger. The point is to build pressure in the manifold which is a tight inclosed area. You would have to cut holes in your manifold, route a pipe, make sure the pipe is tightly connected to your manifold (somehow), route it to the front and then route it back to the manifold. You'd have a nice pressure loss and it wouldn't really benefit you much.
Also, you'd be cutting and hacking away at the manifold and honestly, I don't even know how much space you would even be able to hack away at the manifold without interferring with the superchargers placement.
So cliff notes...no.
Also, you'd be cutting and hacking away at the manifold and honestly, I don't even know how much space you would even be able to hack away at the manifold without interferring with the superchargers placement.
So cliff notes...no.
#7
Although it is possible, it is not worth all the effort. Think about it, a Roots SC is an air mover. By adding a A2A cooler, you are creating more space for the air to fill. That means it will take more air to compress, plus cause a lag in the system which defeats the biggest point of a roots SC.
Taking all that into account, if you still want to do it, just remember that it will be the biggest pain in the ass ever.
And Adam, an Air to Water is more efficient at peak performance in the short term, until heatsoak does you in. Air to Air has the advantage of being far more resistant to heatsoak which gives it a flatter cooling performance curve. That comes from the A2W being a closed system in which the heat exchanger can be overloaded and it pushes the heat back through the system, while the A2A system is open and as long as it is getting fresh air (your driving forward) it will perform.
But hey, your still the Allstar.
Taking all that into account, if you still want to do it, just remember that it will be the biggest pain in the ass ever.
And Adam, an Air to Water is more efficient at peak performance in the short term, until heatsoak does you in. Air to Air has the advantage of being far more resistant to heatsoak which gives it a flatter cooling performance curve. That comes from the A2W being a closed system in which the heat exchanger can be overloaded and it pushes the heat back through the system, while the A2A system is open and as long as it is getting fresh air (your driving forward) it will perform.
But hey, your still the Allstar.
#8
Although it is possible, it is not worth all the effort. Think about it, a Roots SC is an air mover. By adding a A2A cooler, you are creating more space for the air to fill. That means it will take more air to compress, plus cause a lag in the system which defeats the biggest point of a roots SC.
Taking all that into account, if you still want to do it, just remember that it will be the biggest pain in the ass ever.
And Adam, an Air to Water is more efficient at peak performance in the short term, until heatsoak does you in. Air to Air has the advantage of being far more resistant to heatsoak which gives it a flatter cooling performance curve. That comes from the A2W being a closed system in which the heat exchanger can be overloaded and it pushes the heat back through the system, while the A2A system is open and as long as it is getting fresh air (your driving forward) it will perform.
But hey, your still the Allstar.
Taking all that into account, if you still want to do it, just remember that it will be the biggest pain in the ass ever.
And Adam, an Air to Water is more efficient at peak performance in the short term, until heatsoak does you in. Air to Air has the advantage of being far more resistant to heatsoak which gives it a flatter cooling performance curve. That comes from the A2W being a closed system in which the heat exchanger can be overloaded and it pushes the heat back through the system, while the A2A system is open and as long as it is getting fresh air (your driving forward) it will perform.
But hey, your still the Allstar.
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#16
it's the big shiny radiator-looking thing sitting in the front end of the car.
if someone made a centrifugal supercharger kit for cobalts, you could potentially have an air/air intercooled supercharger.
if someone made a centrifugal supercharger kit for cobalts, you could potentially have an air/air intercooled supercharger.
#17
ok thought it was a front mount. Just wasnt sure. So these IC are liquid cooler no air correct?
#18
wouldnt the intercooler be located behind the front bumper like most intercoolers.....?
im sorry dude are you drunk? because im drunk right now and i prolly can word what your asking better then you....
im sorry dude are you drunk? because im drunk right now and i prolly can word what your asking better then you....
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#19
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See on my STI is doesint look the same.
LOL, Forget I said anything I know whats up now. thanks
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#24
It's right behind the front bumper.
Think of it like this...
It works just like a Radiator (basically does the same thing) but it's a radiator for your manifold.
Just to clarify, I'm talking about the heat exchanger
The intercooler is between the manifold and supercharger
Think of it like this...
It works just like a Radiator (basically does the same thing) but it's a radiator for your manifold.
Just to clarify, I'm talking about the heat exchanger
The intercooler is between the manifold and supercharger
Last edited by NJHK; 03-31-2007 at 02:20 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
#25
That is a hot car though, looks great in black!!
I wasn't tryin to correct you Adam, please don't slap me
Last edited by ItalianJoe1; 03-31-2007 at 02:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost