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Anyone add a second stock heat exhanger up front?

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Old 07-12-2006, 04:57 PM
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******* **** you guys have two things that I dont

A. Time
B. Money

It sucks not being able to mod your car because of bills....... hopefully I will see you foo's next friday !
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also some of this **** is beyond me..... I need help with tuning what I have and what not....
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Originally Posted by 1stbluSS
******* **** you guys have two things that I dont

A. Time
B. Money

It sucks not being able to mod your car because of bills....... hopefully I will see you foo's next friday !
Money I don't have, time I do. That is why I don't already have a W/I kit on the car already. I am trying to do this on a budget to a degree. $50 for a Cobra HE is a small price if it helps. If it doesn't, sell it!
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
The place that is building an ice box and all the other **** for our cars soon makes cobra heat exhcangers there at their shop. They offer twice as much flow for fluid than the stock one...going to be around the end of the month when it will be released I'm sure but either way its awesome. It will have custom hangers for our cars so it will work!!!

So Vandy, are you saying they are making ONE BIG EFFICIENT aftercooler, to replace our stock one?

Thanks, can't wait if thats the case!
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Yeah, instead of taking a stock Cobra HE....they are using the same exact one that they put on a Cobra....brrr..anyone feel a cold breeze and a POSSIBILITY of having IAT2 as low or lower than the IAT1? They said with an ice box and HE to expect around 30% loss in temps
Old 07-12-2006, 05:24 PM
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curtousy of RL forums here is a picture of the Cobra heat exchanger, i guess we can get them for around 60-90 bucks and maybe expect to pay close to 110 with all the hoses and stuff needed....this mod is in my near future...

not to mention how bad ass it would look with a intercooler sprayer bar in front of it to chill temps even more

Old 07-12-2006, 05:27 PM
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for the most efficiency put the hotest liquid into the exchanger that receives the least cooling then route that into the 2nd least cooling exchanger...catch my drift u want it to go thru the hotest b\part first and the coldest part last so there is no chance of heating it

Dan

the stock he is huge...make the cobra feel small
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Originally Posted by silverSS
curtousy of RL forums here is a picture of the Cobra heat exchanger, i guess we can get them for around 60-90 bucks and maybe expect to pay close to 110 with all the hoses and stuff needed....this mod is in my near future...

not to mention how bad ass it would look with a intercooler sprayer bar in front of it to chill temps even more
Ya, I seen those posts, but was thinking I might run two of these stock ones (since I got this one already then add the cobra one later if needed. Looks like we will have tons of new little options on what to do to reduce these temps.

the guy on the RL forums has a nice writeup on how he made his fit. I'm sure the other companies will be making something soon for us.
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Originally Posted by djt81185
pat

for the most efficiency put the hotest liquid into the exchanger that receives the least cooling then route that into the 2nd least cooling exchanger...catch my drift u want it to go thru the hotest b\part first and the coldest part last so there is no chance of heating it

Dan


the stock he is huge...make the cobra feel small
Yeah that is how i tried to explain it. Maybe it came out wrong. I want to find a set of small fans to hook to the cobra HE now. Junkyard only
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lots of the LSJ guys in miami are begining to experiment with it too.
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That is such a freaking great ideal!! If a manufacturer picks this ideal up and makes a kit for us for a good price, they could make a killing$$$$!
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Yeah, instead of taking a stock Cobra HE....they are using the same exact one that they put on a Cobra....brrr..anyone feel a cold breeze and a POSSIBILITY of having IAT2 as low or lower than the IAT1? They said with an ice box and HE to expect around 30% loss in temps

How about the price on those? Last I looked at LFP site those duel pass heat exchangers were in the $399 range then add a $199 icebox.... OUCH this stuff is getting expensive fast....

I like how the $50-$100 range for the heat exchanger mentioned above in the previous post sounds.
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i agree, but think about this way, you could easily pay $500 for a FMIC
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Originally Posted by silverSS
i agree, but think about this way, you could easily pay $500 for a FMIC
why would you want a FMIC on a vehicle that already has a liquid cooler?
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Originally Posted by sheek360
why would you want a FMIC on a vehicle that already has a liquid cooler?
im talking about for a turbo, its called comparing

DOH!!!
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Originally Posted by silverSS
im talking about for a turbo, its called comparing

DOH!!!
u didnt compare,
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Originally Posted by sheek360
u didnt compare,
Yeah I had no idea what he was talking about. But I agree with EnufPwr. If I can get similar results for 1/4 cost, I am going to try it for sure.
Old 07-12-2006, 09:19 PM
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$500+ for a FMIC

$300 for a heat exchanger, they both do the same thing, cool air

i wouldnt complain of a price tag of $300 if a cobra HE would actually show significant gains.................
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??? i paid 60 shipped for my cobra he...ill maybe have 80 into it when im done
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I understand what your getting at silverSS, but no way inhell would I pay$300 for a HE. I don't think it would be as effective as an air to air intercooler would either.
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Originally Posted by patathSS
I understand what your getting at silverSS, but no way inhell would I pay$300 for a HE. I don't think it would be as effective as an air to air intercooler would either.
why wouldnt it be, increased liquid and air flowing through it. its better than the ice box! air to water is more effective then air to air! and the ss/sc and RL have to be eextensively modified for an air to air! for one thing a special bracket would have to be made to fit under the supercharger to allow the air to go through a tube to the FMIC. then it has to come all the way back up under the sc! since the sc is raised almost 2 inches you would need to source a longer belt too! and hopefully the SC is far enough to not burn the hood, WTF ARE U 2 TALKING ABOUT!

u and silverss are confusing the hell outta me.
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hrmph lol maybe i can clear this all up...

i responded by saying the turbo guys pay 300, 400, 500+ for FMIC upgrades.

we, with superchargers may only have to pay 100-300 for an upgraded heat exchanger...i was simply saying, we dont have to pay as much to cool the air lol, or something like that

I agree with the laminova wins effeciancy over an air-air anyday. water to airs are not on as many cars beacuse they are more money im guessing? i really dont know why water to airs are not on other cars........

I say $300 beacuse in the future when an upgraded heat exchanger comes out for the LSj plan on probably paying something like that

if you want to fab up your own like the cobra HE, only gonna run you what...$80-100 NOT BAD

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Sorry, I didn't mean a FMIC on a Cobalt. I just meant comparing temperature difference, I think a air to air will cause a greater temp drop then a liquid to air will. Maybe its not even worth comparing because you have two different cars in two different settings.
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Originally Posted by silverSS
hrmph lol maybe i can clear this all up...

i responded by saying the turbo guys pay 300, 400, 500+ for FMIC upgrades.

we, with superchargers may only have to pay 100-300 for an upgraded heat exchanger...i was simply saying, we dont have to pay as much to cool the air lol, or something like that

I agree with the laminova wins effeciancy over an air-air anyday. water to airs are not on as many cars beacuse they are more money im guessing? i really dont know why water to airs are not on other cars........

I say $300 beacuse in the future when an upgraded heat exchanger comes out for the LSj plan on probably paying something like that

if you want to fab up your own like the cobra HE, only gonna run you what...$80-100 NOT BAD

god some1 that made sense, u earned your cookie dude! thanks!
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lol

i was just trying to compare us to turbos and how they cool the air, guess thats what i get for hanging out with all turbo cars all the time, i talk like i have one....


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