Doc

For Cobra Heat Exchangers call
Amazon Tuning Solutions
(864) 332 0955

He has plenty of them and will sell them for $75.
He also sells an upgraded one for $279. I didn't get the specs but it is a replacement that Cobra owners choose. There are lots of options out there. This happens to be a good alternative at this time.

vandy0419

I'm not sure how much the Cobra HE will cost and the Ice Box...here is the thing though, people are seeing about 20 degree drops with a stock cobra he...what about something that cobras see big drops with putting a larger he on theirs...now imagine us putting on that larger he on OUR cars...lot easier too cool and should even see larger drops than the cobras see. The dry ice in an ice box has been done and tested, not LFPs though, but with 25 degree drop it saw a gain in 20hp.

Now imagine both a Ice Box and HE...insane I think. The HE will have mounts directly up to the cars. ALSO...the RLs Ice Box will be larger than the Cobalts (more room over there) and Mark from LFP said the Ice Box I sent him is larger than the one for the Cobras...so even more room for dry ice or ice to cool everything even more than the efficiency of a Ice Box on a Cobra...we're comparing a M112 V8 to a M62 I4.

The Cobalt one might be able to be as large as the RL since the guys there are going to try incorporating the windshield washer fluid tube into the Ice Box so it kind of will be built around it I guess. That is what they are doing with a new ice box for the Lightnings.

silverSS

check this out

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-...QQcmdZViewItem

FAST06SS

The IC system is not "pressureized" a little FYI for ya As long as you get the air out Daren, you'll be fine with that set-up.

FAST06SS

Pat, will the mustang IC fit up between the condensor and the front bumper support?

vandy0419

Its pressurized to 5psi...there is a whole long step process to actually putting in more coolant properly, not just pour it through the reservoir.

vandy0419

Thats the place making one for the CSS and RL...

vandy0419

http://www.lightningforceperformance...productID=1140

Here is the link for the one I'm going to set up a bracket for it...same one as on eBay, but their site is a little easier to read through description-wise.


EDIT: They also have a dual pass one for another $60.

FAST06SS

Sorry, that is incorrect.

FAST06SS

Better check the measurements on that. I thought it would fit as well but the front bumper support gets in the way.

silverSS

so LFP is actually making one for us? id rather buy one with instructions and everything i need rather than peicing something together, i wouldnt know where to start........

djt81185

rob im pretty sure its pressurized ive seen it with my own eyes 5psi sounds correct. it makes it more efficient when it pressurized...thats why nuke plants run 20,00psi iirc in their reactor coolant loops

FAST06SS

Take your cap off the next time your car is hot, no prssure there. I just double checked the service manual as well, no pressure mentioned.

The coolant never woould get hot enough to build pressure unless we wnet to grooved sc shafts I'll make a phone call tomorrow to verify and if i'm wrong, you will all be the first to know.

djt81185

reason why i say is i have pulled my cap off hot and watched the coolant level jump up

o well

vandy0419

Should work on the RL...checked it out tonight and with the dimensions of the 30x6x3 it should fit on the RL...he said the guy with the cobalt was requesting a specially sized one...so it is the same concept...just smaller size. The bumper support and everything is different on the cars, just like the difference in size of the ice box for the RL vs the size of the one on the CSS.

vandy0419

rlinbatonrouge on the RL forums was a service writer for a Saturn dealership. He faxed me the directions of how to do it yesterday.

May not be in your manual, but I know on my car, the cap says pressurize to 5 psi. My car was just at the dealership because I think the car is leaking coolant (well it is but it is leaking internally, 100% sure it is the cores are leaking). But when I checked it 5 days later to see if there was any coolant at all, I popped the top...heard the pressure leak out.

Open it one time, close it up and open it later and of course it isn't going to let out the noise unless you do it properly.

vandy0419

Rob, go check your cap, I know what mine says on the overflow reservoir.

FAST06SS

Thats why i'm jealous of you ION guys and all the room you have under the hood and out front. The cobalt is way tighter

vandy0419

Get a RL then and make it a completely built race car. Someone out there would be willing to pay tons for your CSS man, honestly, almost creamed myself when I saw it the night we were doing all the testing.

You can get a RL for maybe 13 or 14, drop the capital you have when you sell your CSS and you can build it up really big.

I'm waiting to hear if they are ready to release the axles yet. Ends up the axles didn't work on a RL since the CSS has an angle to how it mates up and the RL is pretty straight.

FAST06SS

Radiator caps say 15psi, that doesn't mean that is the pressure the system works under, it is the rating in which the internal relief valve opens and allows coolant to go out the drain.

Under 99.9% of the operating conditions, there should be no pressure in our system.

vandy0419

Also, Rob, just because there is more room in the RL...people think the CSS is a lot "tighter" looking. Which I agree...having a RL people said a bunch of crap about the ION. These kids in a WRX were laughing at my "Saturn with an INTENSE sticker" hanging out their windows, etc and about 20 seconds later had their windows up sitting in their seats quietly with their mouths shut...*sigh* no respect,

vandy0419

I'm not talking about the radiator cap...the cap on the IC overflow...two different systems and lines...no coolant passing through a IC will ever see the coolant in the radiator.

FAST06SS

I understand that, was just using it as an example. Either way it doesn't matter, we all know we need maor capacity and cooling area


Oh yea, great story 2 post up

vandy0419

Rob, How is the business going? Any better? You going to be able to market a catless downpipe anytime soon? I really need one and Scott said that they don't have an ETA for that or the header.

FAST06SS

We are busy right now, thanks for asking. I bug Scott every 2 days on several projects/ideas i have and or we are working on. Hang in there