Anyone add a second stock heat exhanger up front?
#76
Senior Member
Originally Posted by FAST06SS
We are busy right now, thanks for asking. I bug Scott every 2 days on several projects/ideas i have and or we are working on. Hang in there
#81
Senior Member
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
QUESTION: can you swap the h/c with the a/c condensor.... and I'm gonna try and fab something up this weekend to use as an ice-box for the ic fluid.... keep you posted
#82
Senior Member
Join Date: 03-26-06
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by vandy0419
Well if you don't want ac, go ahead and take out your ac condenser...
Stock, the HE is sandwiched between the Rad, and the AC condensor. If the HE were placed in front of the other two it would see more fresh/cold air, as opposed to just seeing whatever makes it through the AC condensor.
I think that's what he was asking, and I personally have no clue how hard it would be to pull off. Would certainly help though, this would also allow for a spray bar to be ran in front of the HE, further increasing it's efficiency, and looking cool as hell to boot.
#85
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Shelby Twp MI
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well, after looking at it last night. I was thinking about how some are planning on putting a stock cobra HE up front hanging down away from the fans. I would think you might need some fans hooked to it to draw air in at idle or when staged at the track. It would work great while driving and having air blowing at it, but at idle it would heat up since not allot of air is actually blowing on it at idle when most of this heat soak is occuring.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
#86
Senior Member
Join Date: 04-04-06
Location: Illinois
Posts: 919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
Well, after looking at it last night. I was thinking about how some are planning on putting a stock cobra HE up front hanging down away from the fans. I would think you might need some fans hooked to it to draw air in at idle or when staged at the track. It would work great while driving and having air blowing at it, but at idle it would heat up since not allot of air is actually blowing on it at idle when most of this heat soak is occuring.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
They make a aftermarket set of fans for the cobras to mount diretly on the heat exchanger for that purpose. Might timker with that idea later on down the road.
#87
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Shelby Twp MI
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by DWK5150
They make a aftermarket set of fans for the cobras to mount diretly on the heat exchanger for that purpose. Might timker with that idea later on down the road.
#88
Senior Member
Join Date: 04-04-06
Location: Illinois
Posts: 919
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
There you go.... That would work then
Thsi place offers them plus they have specs on othere size cobra heat exchangers.
http://www.gordsfordperformance.com
#89
Senior Member
Join Date: 03-28-06
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
Posts: 2,020
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have two stock HE's on my 06 cobalt ss right now. They are linked together and there was an increase in power because of all the cold air that it sucks in. Also I added a bottle of Royal Purple's PURPLE ICE into that and the coolant so I am seeing a very good temp drop all the way around! You have to fab up some things and get hose but all in all I spent like 50 bucks for the hose, coolant, purple ice, hanging materials, and clamps. I am def proud of how me and my buddy hooked it up. Only took an hour or so mainly because we wanted it to be straight so it looked like a FMIC! Ill post pics if anyone wants to see them!
#90
Senior Member
Originally Posted by ENUFPWR
Well, after looking at it last night. I was thinking about how some are planning on putting a stock cobra HE up front hanging down away from the fans. I would think you might need some fans hooked to it to draw air in at idle or when staged at the track. It would work great while driving and having air blowing at it, but at idle it would heat up since not allot of air is actually blowing on it at idle when most of this heat soak is occuring.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
This is one reason why I choose to mount this second HE in the front of the AC condensor. So the fans can draw air in and help out while the extra air from driving would help during a pass down the track or normal driving.
#91
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Shelby Twp MI
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by 06noscobaltss
I have two stock HE's on my 06 cobalt ss right now. They are linked together and there was an increase in power because of all the cold air that it sucks in. Also I added a bottle of Royal Purple's PURPLE ICE into that and the coolant so I am seeing a very good temp drop all the way around! You have to fab up some things and get hose but all in all I spent like 50 bucks for the hose, coolant, purple ice, hanging materials, and clamps. I am def proud of how me and my buddy hooked it up. Only took an hour or so mainly because we wanted it to be straight so it looked like a FMIC! Ill post pics if anyone wants to see them!
#93
Senior Member
Join Date: 03-28-06
Location: Wheaton, Illinois
Posts: 2,020
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Haha Ill have some up tomorrow for all of u to gawk (sp.) over! Its a sweet set-up. You have to cut, heat up and bend the pipes that come out because they need to go at the bottom like the stock one is otherwise it will not work. You just have it go into one, go into the 2nd one, then from the 2nd one back to the first and ur good to go. Just make sure u have it hooked up the right way so it flows the right way so the cold comes into the hot and makes it cooler. Thats how I did it! And I used brackets from a local pep boys to hold it in place using the stock radiator support screws. Ill post pics asap!
#94
Senior Member
Join Date: 09-15-05
Location: OP, KS
Posts: 2,256
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I finished installing my Cobra HE tonight and it went ok. I need a couple more hosebends but it turned out alright. In hindsight I figured a couple easier ways to mount it. Oh well, Live and learn. The pictures form tonight didn't turn out so hot so I will take some more tomorrow. It seemed to help. I did a few runs tonight and normally my temps on hard runs are 145-160 with icebox and OEM HE. Tonight runs were 100-120 with icebox, OEM HE, and Cobra HE. Next I need to call and order the fans that atwilson listed.
#95
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Shelby Twp MI
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Finished part of the heat echanger install. All worked out great. I just installed the 2nd heat exchanger and didn't get around to installing the the bigger surge tank. Took a few pictures..... Looks like it belongs there....hidden and factory looking. Temps dropped 20 degrees's from what I've seen testing a few times during a WOT pass on the street, but it was 98degrees today so I'll have to see after more tests.
Here are some more pictures.
Here are some more pictures.
Last edited by ENUFPWR; 07-17-2006 at 11:07 AM.
#96
Senior Member
Join Date: 03-26-06
Location: Michigan
Posts: 2,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
^^Looks awesome man.
I love the "custom" mounts, lol
does it slide or shake too bad while running?
It's good to know that the HE appears to work
just as well mounted upside down
Great work brother
I love the "custom" mounts, lol
does it slide or shake too bad while running?
It's good to know that the HE appears to work
just as well mounted upside down
Great work brother
#98
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: 02-08-06
Location: Shelby Twp MI
Posts: 365
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by SS33
^^Looks awesome man.
I love the "custom" mounts, lol
does it slide or shake too bad while running?
It's good to know that the HE appears to work
just as well mounted upside down
Great work brother
I love the "custom" mounts, lol
does it slide or shake too bad while running?
It's good to know that the HE appears to work
just as well mounted upside down
Great work brother
It doesn't slide or shake at all.
Temps today outside were 95degrees
IAT1 temps were 98-100degrees
IAT2 temps were 118-120 while going 80 on the highway. Stop at a light and IAT2 temps would climb to 132degrees and stay there.
Two WOT throttle runs from 1st to 4th gear resulted in IAT2 temps going from 118-135 1st to 3rd and top of 3rd before 4th I was at 150.....160-180 was the max I've seen hit so far in the heat beforehand during the passes so the HE dropped 20degrees from before. Going to have to do some more testing, but the heat rise wasn't as drastic as before. This does work
#100
Senior Member
Hey Daren...looks good bro!
I've keep thinking about the mounting direstion of the 2nd HE like we talked about so i gave up on thinking and e-mailed my eng proff from school and he basicly told me that sence the entire system is under pressure that its doesnt make a bit of differance as long as the stock pump can handle the extra fluid and resistance in the system that you created...
I think it can.
also i've been trying to get a good pic of a "cut away" of our stock HE to see how all the lines in it are connected and what not like we talked about to see if i can get a final answer on that.
it loks REAL good tho...still stock looking and thats always a good thing!!!
i think the cobra idea like my self and pat have done(and others) stands as the most cost effective way to do this BUT the cobra unit doesnt have the same serface area as stock but its better then nothing!!!
good **** tho....nice to see the next step in keeping our AIT's in check!
I've keep thinking about the mounting direstion of the 2nd HE like we talked about so i gave up on thinking and e-mailed my eng proff from school and he basicly told me that sence the entire system is under pressure that its doesnt make a bit of differance as long as the stock pump can handle the extra fluid and resistance in the system that you created...
I think it can.
also i've been trying to get a good pic of a "cut away" of our stock HE to see how all the lines in it are connected and what not like we talked about to see if i can get a final answer on that.
it loks REAL good tho...still stock looking and thats always a good thing!!!
i think the cobra idea like my self and pat have done(and others) stands as the most cost effective way to do this BUT the cobra unit doesnt have the same serface area as stock but its better then nothing!!!
good **** tho....nice to see the next step in keeping our AIT's in check!