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Old 09-02-2006, 12:47 PM
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Blower heatsoak and 2.8" pulley

I know there's like a million damn thread on the 2.8" pulley, but I think this one is a little different.

In Charleston, SC it is usually pretty damn how so the blower heatsoaks easily here. Since I put on the 2.8" is seems even worse. I expected that, but it seems to take for ever after about 3 pulls for the blower to cool down. My coolant cools quickly after pulls, but the blower just doesn't give the same exhilirating oomph. I was just wondering if anyone else noticed this with the 2.8" pulley. I think the Cobalt Addiction HE is order when I return from this deployment I'm going on.
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methanol injection.... clears that right up ... mine actually is cold to the touch
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and the HE will help too... but the meth does the best job of cooling the IAT's down
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
methanol injection.... clears that right up ... mine actually is cold to the touch

Im not a big understander of this but...how often do you have to refill it?
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An HE will cool the air post supercharger, but to cool the blower itself water/meth seems to be the way to go. I wonder if anyone has tried one of those CRYO2 intake coolers. Might not be as effective as water/meth at cooling, but it won't displace the air in the process. Although it might be a little restrictive. http://www.cryo2.com/products.asp?m=sp&pid=4
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as long as you don't beat on the car constantly it lasts a good amount of time... also just pick up a 5 gal jug of vp racingt methanol if you make a 50/50 mix comes out to 10 gallons for 44 dollars... not a bad deal... also depends on when you set it to come on... if you don't have it kick in til almost full boost, than you won't use that much at all
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Is the water/meth sprayed before or after the blower? I know it's corrosive and could eat the teflon coating on the blower blades if sprayed before.
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before.,,., and as said many many times on this site.,.. or blower does not have teflon coatings those are the GEnIV we have the GEN V which has an epoxy coating... I've been running it for a while and have no wear whatsoever on my s/c
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checked it last night by the way
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I must have missed that memo with all my problems I was having I wasn't checking the threads as much! I guess I'll look into a kit further here in the future. Thanks for the good info.
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no problem man... def a good buy... even if you don't tune for it your gonna see some nice gains... plus it cleans the motor... raises your octane.. coold the air... and quenches detonation... good bang for the buck in my opinion
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the meth injection says for runnin 20 + lbs of boost or a 2.7 pulley...........but i guess i could use it with a gm stage 2 and 2.8 pulley??
Old 09-02-2006, 01:58 PM
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sure.. u can even use it stock.. either way it will keep the engine in tip top shape from keeping minimum to zero KR. Heat is not good. I am installing my kit tomorrow and I can't wait. I'm gonna pickup a couple gallons of winshield washer fluid today to try it first.. they are like a dollar a gallon so u can't go wrong
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Originally Posted by SSinPhilly
the meth injection says for runnin 20 + lbs of boost or a 2.7 pulley...........but i guess i could use it with a gm stage 2 and 2.8 pulley??
Stage II is for that application the stage I is for anything bigger than a 2.7. At least that is what i understood from the discription. My question is will it hurt going to a stage II setup if only running a 2.7? The reason for asking is i am thinking about going to a 2.6 down the road.
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hey post pics if you have and maybe a how-to install if you have the time! Good Luck man let me know how it turns out!~
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I have INTENSE Stage 4 w/2.5" pulley....the SC gets sooo hot I cant even touch it. It get 110*F daily so maybe that's wht I only see 16 psi

Next 3 major buys are:
Meth inj
CA heat Exc.
HPT
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good choice on the future buys for that man.... mines cooler than it was stock
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Get a HE!
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Originally Posted by p7x
Get a HE!

A heat exchanger doesn't actually cool the blower, it cools the air AFTER the blower. The only proven way to cool the blower itself is the water/meth kit, spraying before the blower.
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
A heat exchanger doesn't actually cool the blower, it cools the air AFTER the blower. The only proven way to cool the blower itself is the water/meth kit, spraying before the blower.
I know, I dont prefer meth injection, so HE was my suggestion

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Old 09-03-2006, 03:30 PM
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Ok so what are the downfalls of water/met injection?

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I haven't seen any
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What happens when ur meth system fails or pump dies under load?
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can you run just straight water ( distilled ) instead of payin big bucks for meth?
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Methanol will corrode aluminum. It is a weak acid.

6 CH3OH + Al2O3 → 2 Al(OCH3)3 + 3 H2O

The resulting methoxide salts are soluble in methanol, resulting in clean aluminium surface, which is readily oxidised by some dissolved oxygen. Also the methanol can act as a oxidiser:

6 CH3OH + 2 Al → 2 Al2(OCH3)3 + 3H2

I wouldn't do it.


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