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Old 09-03-2006, 04:40 PM
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ive decided im gonna go the HE route, im too scared to run water meth,
im checkin out the cobalt additction heat exchanger, looks pretty straight forward and its proven to cool intake temps, maybe after that get some of those goodies from the GM stage 3 if you can buy parts seperate.
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
can you run just straight water ( distilled ) instead of payin big bucks for meth?
"Yes, but you will not be able to take advantage of the octane boosting properties of methanol, thus you will get cooling from the water, but no increase in octane. Without methanol, you may not make as much power, as it acts as a detonation inhibitor, and you may not be able to run a leaner AFR as you could with it. "
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Methanol isn't that expensive. My buddy owns a small engine business and always has it in stock. Even retail on it isn't that bad. If you want to play, you got to pay somewhere.
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i talked to a mechanic I know and he said that most engines won't last 20,000 miles if you are running water or meth injection
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Originally Posted by sethallen
i talked to a mechanic I know and he said that most engines won't last 20,000 miles if you are running water or meth injection
The way it was explained to me was that it was a short term solution to reduce heat. Although turbo Buick owners have been using it for the past 15 years.
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the concept is that the water/meth is evaporated, and then that cools the blower/engine...well where do the water vapors end up after they evaporate?
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Originally Posted by p7x
What happens when ur meth system fails or pump dies under load?
What happens when your stock intercooler pump takes a crap?
Old 09-03-2006, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad06SS
What happens when your stock intercooler pump takes a crap?
Not this...

"with running water/meth injection, you are risking detonation and catostrophic engine failure shoud you system fail or not run at optimum efficiency. This is due to the fact that when tuned you will be running advanced timing, boost and leaner fuel trims that would normally not be possible without water/meth injection. Loss of the system while under heavy load may not be able to be compensated for in time, and could cause detonation at best case, and engine failure at worst case."
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Originally Posted by p7x
Not this...

"with running water/meth injection, you are risking detonation and catostrophic engine failure shoud you system fail or not run at optimum efficiency. This is due to the fact that when tuned you will be running advanced timing, boost and leaner fuel trims that would normally not be possible without water/meth injection. Loss of the system while under heavy load may not be able to be compensated for in time, and could cause detonation at best case, and engine failure at worst case."
Man if that doesn't steer people clear of meth/water, I don't know what will.
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well guys Ive decided to not use water/meth injection. I would like to keep my engine intact and will use other means of cooling. I have an idea for a hood that forces air over the top of the engine and SC through means of multiple hood scoops.

Im going to buy a rk sport hood and do some chopping next year

I figure direct air flow over the engine and SC should drop temps drastically, especially at higher speeds.
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I don't think it will make much of a difference. The heat is happening INSIDE the sc and engine, which is made of metal. Blowing air on it might cool it down a little, but the power will be used up compensating for the extra drag from the hood.
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Maybe a fanning system mounted under the hood??
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Maybe a fanning system mounted under the hood??
Exactly. Just get an electric fan with a cabin switch. You throw the fan on whenever.
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maybe we can re-route the air conditioning from the cabin vents onto the engine and SC?

Or how bout we remove the hood, hmm.............
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damn you guys are paranoid... these meth systems have been in use for over 50 yrs..(ran them on fighter planes in WWII). you have nothing to worry about if the system dies out... as long as you don't run an extremely agressive tune on your car... If you want to.. thats just the risk you take... all's fair in the game of speed...
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
damn you guys are paranoid... these meth systems have been in use for over 50 yrs..(ran them on fighter planes in WWII). you have nothing to worry about if the system dies out... as long as you don't run an extremely agressive tune on your car... If you want to.. thats just the risk you take... all's fair in the game of speed...
Like I said orginally, i don't prefer it, not to say that it does work. When the SS is not my only car than i will have a more aggressive approach to it. In WWII they used meth systems cause the planes were over heating and blowing up. This is a short term solution to a heating problem that stems from design. There wasnt neither the time or the money to remodel the planes so meth was used.
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that is true... but it shows it does work... everyone is entitled to use what they prefer... If I see anything I don't like with the meth, I'd disconnect it and let you guys know... but so far so good
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Originally Posted by distillion
ive decided im gonna go the HE route, im too scared to run water meth,
im checkin out the cobalt additction heat exchanger, looks pretty straight forward and its proven to cool intake temps, maybe after that get some of those goodies from the GM stage 3 if you can buy parts seperate.
I think it is all safe. the water meth is not sitting on the rotors long enough to carode it. plus if you are worried about it then just turn it off a few blocks b/4 getting home then you would clear out any water/meth.

on a side note - if you really dont like water/meth and want to cool things down beyond a heat exchanger then go NO2. more power and it cools. just go with a 25 or 50 shot. thats it. you can tune for it or not. go wet injection. most of the heat build up can be reduced from reducing the temp of the intake manifold. this cooling effect will suck heat away from the charger and motor. all seem like good ideas.
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Looks like this could be a good setup if going with CO2
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