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Old 10-07-2009, 09:11 AM
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Exclamation building motor need advice

Ok here's the deal I did a leak down test and # 4 piston is at 120 compression and the other 3 are 170. So he thinks I might have messed up the head. He doesn't kno if there is any damage under the head. If there is damage to the head he's jus going to fix the problem, but if there's damage under the head (bottom half of motor) he's going to put all the upgraded parts in for 2k. My question is do u think there will b damage on the bottom half of the motor? Where can I buy head studs, head gasket,diamond piston, valve springs, valves, piston rings, sleeves, connecting rods? If its jus damage to my head he said about $1000 to fix it and if its bottom half about $2000 to fix plus cost of upgraded parts. What u guys think? _________________
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i think that if you have to ask where to buy those parts, that you should just take your car to a mechanic.
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well if he did a leak down test the test should be able to tell you wat u need to fix. because the air has to leak out somewhere. the air can only leak out 4 places.. the intake valve, the exhaust valve, the crankcrase,and the coolant. soo if its the bottom end ud hear air coming from the dip stick area or drain plug if u removed the oil, if its the intake valve itll come from the intake manifold , if exhaust valve then air will leak out the exhaust manifold and if the coolant then itll come out the radiator or the coolant resevoir.

but might as well build the motor since u got the money.. www.turbotechracing.com is the way to go for your "go fast" needs

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i think that if you have to ask where to buy those parts, that you should just take your car to a mechanic.
well when he say "he" im assuming a mechanic

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Old 10-07-2009, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
i think that if you have to ask where to buy those parts, that you should just take your car to a mechanic.
Funny...I brought it to a mechanice to do the test and find out what's wrong. I'm not changin any of these parts. I'm not going to charge myself 2k + parts to fix my car. The reason y I asked where to buy that stuff was because I looked on zzp and ottp but still couldn't find connecting rods and sleeves. So if anyone knows who has all of these parts in stock please let me kno
Old 10-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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you wont need rods. Trust me... they will hold just fine...

Sleeves are in the making.. right now they dont "make them" for the lsj.. just the 2.2 engine...
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Contact Josh at OTTP. He will take care of you and has all the parts you will need with phenominal customer service to back it up.
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Contact Josh at OTTP. He will take care of you and has all the parts you will need with phenominal customer service to back it up.
I dont think the sleeves are out just quite yet.
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I dont think the sleeves are out just quite yet.
Just stick with my comment posted above. He has everything this guy will need. Especially the sleeves by the time this guy gets the motor out and whatnot.
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Originally Posted by 2K5SS/SC?
Just stick with my comment posted above. He has everything this guy will need. Especially the sleeves by the time this guy gets the motor out and whatnot.
Agreed. Lol.
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Are leak down tests usually free?
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I'm trying to be one of the first to get the darton sleeves for my lsj.
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he did a compression test, not a leakdown test. major difference. You still have a bad hole.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
you wont need rods. Trust me... they will hold just fine...

Sleeves are in the making.. right now they dont "make them" for the lsj.. just the 2.2 engine...
I found a place that does currently make and stock them. Bates Engineering, Costa Mesa Ca.
Old 10-07-2009, 11:30 AM
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^^ good find!

Pricey?
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The mech is going to start pullin the head in a day or 2 after he pulls the head if there is damage under the head were doing a full build of there's no damage under the head then he jus fixin it back to stock. Ill kno for sure prob by the weekend. So I can't reli wait to long cuz I don't have a car so ill do what I can with what I got. I think it did a compression test not reli sure.

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you wont need rods. Trust me... they will hold just fine...

Sleeves are in the making.. right now they dont "make them" for the lsj.. just the 2.2 engine...
U mean I won't need connectin rods? I heard those are usally the first to go? What kind of power can the stock connection rods hold?

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Originally Posted by 06cobalt_ss
The mech is going to start pullin the head in a day or 2 after he pulls the head if there is damage under the head were doing a full build of there's no damage under the head then he jus fixin it back to stock. Ill kno for sure prob by the weekend. So I can't reli wait to long cuz I don't have a car so ill do what I can with what I got. I think it did a compression test not reli sure.



U mean I won't need connectin rods? I heard those are usally the first to go? What kind of power can the stock connection rods hold?
No, you did not hear that. 400+... easy....
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I would get them, it says in your sig in progress of building a "super car"... might need it.
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If he is going to be streetable, then he won't need the rods. Having the kind of power that would require aftermarket rods would equal something not being a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by Deathscythe
If he is going to be streetable, then he won't need the rods. Having the kind of power that would require aftermarket rods would equal something not being a daily driver.
...That is unless you are psychotic like some.
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
^^ good find!

Pricey?
get this, the price went down and the strength and availability went up... when does that ever happen in the aftermarket? lol

1100.00 installed (machined and decked) im local though i dont know if that price is firm or "standard"
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lol... normally non of those things have anything to do with each other...

Good Price, Strength, Availability ... Pick 2.. lol...
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Originally Posted by ShortStack
lol... normally non of those things have anything to do with each other...

Good Price, Strength, Availability ... Pick 2.. lol...
exactly!


dont quote me on this but i think darton is good to 700+ (limits unknown)

and the bates have been tested to 1450hp at which time the block failed miserably... the sleeves are bullet proof literally.
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Originally Posted by hungryhip-ccp
exactly!


dont quote me on this but i think darton is good to 700+ (limits unknown)

and the bates have been tested to 1450hp at which time the block failed miserably... the sleeves are bullet proof literally.
Dartons have been used in a couple 1000+whp cobalts. Rwd conversion drag cars of course.
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Lol the car will be streetable I'm not building a super car I'm jus going all outon all bolt ons and maybe but prob not a tvs

I'm trying to hit 12.8-12.9 on an m62. If I can't do that then I'm sure as hell gonna try to come as close as possible
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