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Not really, I would say it's more of some people paying attention to things that go overlooked by the majority of the crowd.

Damn Paul, that sounds great. I'm really curious to see what you actually chose. Oh by the way today I did out the math for the turbo for another application other than my Integra, and it also just so happens to fit the needs of another car I have in mind. I also figured out why 06Black went with the turbo he did. Compressor maps are great once you figure out how to read them and do all the math involved to choose the right one! Garrett's online Tech pages FTW!

Edubs

So? Got an apprx delivery date yet?

Area47

yulp. the only secret is my dyno numbers

Darkmanx

I wanted to get my post counts up and someone told me this iis the place to do it cause this is where all the post ****** are so post.

06blackg85ss

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still waiting to here back from AGP on the delivery date. Since they won't ship to my job and I have to take the day off to wait for delivery at my house. (I don't mind though lol)
turbo specs as follows:
Turbonetics T3/T04E (so basically will be a swap with the one I have now which is a T3/T04E .57trim)
60-1, .63 a/r stage III (57) wheel, ceramic Ball bearing, 5-bolt exhaust, externally wastegated.
also will be swapping to the Hahn intake manifold and LS4 T.B. soon with a new bigger FMIC and all 3" IC piping. Should make quite a bit of difference. Still on stock everything too.
Clutch, tranny, fuel pump, fuel rail, and motor is still untouched. I'm thinking I should be around 400-415 whp on 23 psi and pump gas. but we shall see.

Area47

or the workchat thread in the lounge

Darkmanx

oh workchat huh. thats how u got 9000?

06blackg85ss

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yeah that would be the place for whoring, this is for whoring out info, not mindless banter

and I got to 9000 without whoring anything, straight informative posts

Rangerondubz

No he got 9000 by making people more educated

1gmfanatik

I agree with da Ranger...Paul is quite the knowledgable fella

SSdan

No, cause he's the fawking man!

Take a seat and number newbie.

Rangerondubz

I was talking about Area but yeas Paul does know his ****

djt81185

Ya 06blacks turbo is baller...but I couldnt stand the price. over 1k...$350 brand new holsets ftmfw

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Very nice decision Paul, I'm sure the new setup will yield those numbers for you. I could double check them if you want.

On a side note, does anyone know what the VE efficiency is of our engines? From what Garrett's site states we should be between 95-99% efficient. I'm just curious as it plays a role in selecting turbos. Also Paul what is you IAT2 at when your at full boost. I'll do the math out and plot it on the compressor map as well as find how much PSI you'll need to run for those numbers. Finally has anyone calculated our drivetrain power loss percentage? I could also use this information as well.


This is not a ***** thread, it is indeed a technical thread for those wanting to go the extra mile. Area is a great source of info as well as Paul. Ranger can confirm that I can be helpful as well here to.

06blackg85ss

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I wanted to try a holset, but due to lack of room with the manifold I'm currently running, I think this will be the biggest I can fit and it was just at the edge of my budget. Hopefully it's worth the money, my friend is running the same turbo on his srt-4 with a reg journal bearing, and he's making some serious power and his lag wasn't as bad as mine with the turbo I'm running now.

so far my peak AIT2's on the dyno after 3 pulls was 95 degrees at a sustained 22.35psi (running FMIC and stock air/water i/c) but on the average my IAT's are btwn 65-85 degrees on a 45 degree day. If you look at my logs they actually drop under WOT

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True that is an expensive turbo, but it is worth it. I just picked up a brand new MHI EVO III 16G for my Integra for $510 shipped! Turbochargers.com rocks and they give military discounts too! WOOT! It's not as cheap as your Holset, but it's definitely a great bang for the buck and the math puts the LSJ nicely in it's compressor map if your shooting for aroung 350whp.

06blackg85ss

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yo 2k5, if you get a chance, just take a gander at the compressor map for my setup, I looked at it, but I'm not the best at plotting these things out lol.

Rangerondubz

Werd up man, you back in town yet? Again thanks for all the help.

Area47

baller on a budget

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Nope, I still have until June/July over here in the sand land! Yeah me!


Paul, do you have a link for the compressor map? I can't find one at the moment for the Turbonetics one. I just did the math for our cars at 95% VE efficiency and your 95* Temps. I figured a 12% drivetrain loss, so you would need to make 475ish crank to put down 417whp. With that said you'll need a turbo that can crank out around 50.51lb/min. It actually works out to 44.20lb/min at the 95* temps and it'll take around 29.5psi to make that power at sea level with a 7000rpm redline. The pressure ratio is 3.37, and at 5000rpms you be belting out 36.08lb/hr. If the two plots for (44.20 @ 3.37) and (36.08 @ 3.37) are on your compressor map, you should be good. There's some more movement to select better housings and whatnot, but this will get you close.

djt81185

Thats how i roll. Esp when it flows gt35 levels of air at 1/4th the cost. And only slightly increases lag

Area47

http://www.turbocharged.com/catalog/compmaps/fig9.html

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I saw that one, but I hope that's not the compressor map for Pauls. From what I gathered he is above the surge line and off the map in both spot given the plot points above. I'll recheck the math again to be sure.

Area47

http://urbanracer.com/articles/anmvi...sp?a=2422&z=42

lag is fun though!
just change the ehxaust housing out for what 100 bucks? to a smaller one. then it begins to have some fun.

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Damn government computer wont let me access the link! Grrr... Well, the points are there, so they just need to be plotted. I'll recheck the math again tomorrow. It's 11 at night here and I need to get some sleep!