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Old 07-26-2010 | 10:02 PM
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Car wont start!

Ok guys heres the deal i had just replaced my trans and got everything back together and all the grounds and plugs in the right place but now when u got to start it witht the key it wont srat all the lighta on the dash come on but wont start. it will start buy jumping the starter and it will run but will not start from the key any ideas guys been messin with it for the whole day and its pissin me off if u could help that would be great.
Old 07-26-2010 | 10:36 PM
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Fuses all good?
Old 07-26-2010 | 10:41 PM
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Fuse and relays good. Check wiring to starter and make sure you have the power cable goi g to starter
Old 07-26-2010 | 10:57 PM
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If it starts when you jump the starter, then everything between the key and computer is good. Sounds like the problem has to be between the ignition and the starter.
Old 07-27-2010 | 12:05 AM
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that wat ive been thinking that its between the key and the starter wat idk yet still trying to find out wat it is going over everything agin
Old 07-27-2010 | 02:31 AM
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that wat ive been thinking that its between the key and the starter wat idk yet still trying to find out wat it is going over everything agin
fuses?
Old 07-27-2010 | 06:05 AM
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Alright you have alot of wires going to the starter did you at all take any Wires off of the starter?
Old 07-27-2010 | 04:10 PM
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ive done everything. if the wires wernt in the right spot i woulnt be able to jusmp the starter. just get nothing from the ket to the starter. i dubble checked every plug and ground and fuses.
Old 07-27-2010 | 11:46 PM
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Hows the clutch switch ?


Heres some info .
may help you figure it out.

The PG starter motors are non-repairable starter motors. They have pole pieces that are arranged around the armature. Both solenoid windings are energized. The pull-in winding circuit is completed to the ground through the starter motor. The windings work together magnetically to pull and hold in the plunger. The plunger moves the shift lever. This action causes the starter drive assembly to rotate on the armature shaft spline as it engages with the flywheel ring gear on the engine. Moving at the same time, the plunger also closes the solenoid switch contacts in the starter solenoid. Full battery voltage is applied directly to the starter motor and it cranks the engine.

As soon as the solenoid switch contacts close, current stops flowing thorough the pull-in winding because battery voltage is applied to both ends of the windings. The hold-in winding remains energized. Its magnetic field is strong enough to hold the plunger, shift lever, starter drive assembly, and solenoid switch contacts in place to continue cranking the engine. When the engine starts, pinion overrun protects the armature from excessive speed until the switch is opened.

When the ignition switch is released from the START position, the START relay opens and battery voltage is removed from the starter solenoid S terminal. Current flows from the motor contacts through both windings to the ground at the end of the hold-in winding. However, the direction of the current flow through the pull-in winding is now opposite the direction of the current flow when the winding was first energized.

The magnetic fields of the pull-in and hold-in windings now oppose one another. This action of the windings, along with the help of the return spring, causes the starter drive assembly to disengage and the solenoid switch contacts to open simultaneously. As soon as the contacts open, the starter circuit is turned OFF.

Circuit Description
Moving the ignition switch to the START position signals the body control module (BCM) through discrete inputs from the ignition transducer that engine crank has been requested. The BCM verifies that theft is not active and sends a serial data message to the engine control module (ECM)/powertrain control module (PCM) requesting engine start. The ECM/PCM receives a 12-volt signal from the park/neutral position (PNP) switch or clutch pedal start switch notifying that it is safe to start the engine. There is a splice on this circuit in the fuse block-underhood that supplies power for the starter relay coil. The starter relay coil control circuit is then grounded by the ECM/PCM closing the switch in the starter relay suppling 12 volts to the S-terminal of the starter. Ground is supplied through the engine block.
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