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Cause of SS/SC Death Determined: Aeromotive Fuel Pump

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Old 11-10-2012, 12:44 PM
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Cause of SS/SC Death Determined: Aeromotive Fuel Pump

This explains a lot, (cliff notes at bottom):

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For nearly 5 months and through way too much $$, I fought to keep my SS/SC running to no avail... OEM pump went out in December last year. After running full E85 for 3 years I figured it gave up. I had a credit with ZZP and from my research at the time, the aeromotive stealth fuel pump fit my needs. Who would have thought the next 5 months of struggling and chasing gremlins, being stranded, and lots of $$ in diagnostics could have been prevented had I chosen a different pump. At the time of purchase, the page at ZZP did NOT have a disclaimer or in any way state it was not intended for the average car, aka daily driver. Also, the local performance shop had tested the pump after the initial loss of fuel pressure and found it to be working, so we moved on to wiring, fuseblock, PCM, etc. Never found the source....because the source was the new pump. Should have just replaced it with another OEM

For those that know me/my car, at least I know what was up now... Oh well, Mazdaspeed3 FTMFW!

EDIT: Parted the ss/sc out to nearly every last nut/bolt. Bought my '10 MS3 in May.



TL;DR
OEM fuel pump went out
Replaced with Aeromotive Stealth pump, no warning was on ZZP's site
Loss of fuel pressure continued randomly
$$$$ down drain, could have been fixed with a different pump


I am in no way stating this is ZZP's fault, had they known, so would I when I initially purchased

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So bye bye ss/sc?
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I parted that thing out to the bare frame in May through July. I still have the frame, doors, all glass (with 20% tint! ), M62, and intake manifold. Just sitting collecting dust.
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ic pump?
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Fuel pump. That's why I mentioned loss of fuel pressure lol.

Or were you asking if I had my ic pump still? Nope, just what I listed above.
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Well buddy, I'm sorry I was the one that brought it up to you.. Uhg... I wish I could have seen the Balt running.. I would have been proud to get stomped running you, lol!! But at least you know the reasoning for the nightmare you had dealt with!! And Lola's nice as **** too!!! So I'd be proud to stomp Lola in a run!! LMAO!!
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I wish I could have got your TVS setup and gauge cluster and maybe a WickedSS tuned sticker!! Lol I had very mixed feelings when you told me that the pump you got was the very same... I was bummed but yet I almost laughed just cause its always the last thing anyone thinks of that causes the biggest problems!! I felt bi-polar about the whole convo last night..
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why didnt u buy an oem pump?
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Operation "Get Tom back in a cobalt" begins!
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Originally Posted by Pleass
ic pump?
I believe he sold his ic pump.. He must have misunderstood you..

Originally Posted by TStone
Operation "Get Tom back in a cobalt" begins!
LMAO ^ this

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Tyler: you down for drinks with me and Tom this December.. I'm gonna be coming out then to have methanol and a LS4 tuned in by Tom.. Oh, and you should GIVE me your TVS while I'm there?! Lol
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Originally Posted by briank6102
Tyler: you down for drinks with me and Tom this December.. I'm gonna be coming out then to have methanol and a LS4 tuned in by Tom.. Oh, and you should GIVE me your TVS while I'm there?! Lol
One problem........ i'm 17
hahaha

Oh and as for the TVS........ Let's not talk about her /: I don't have er anymore
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Wait.. I thought you... What?! Why did you get rid of your TVS?? And of course your 17 lol we will buy you a non-alcoholic zima!! Lmao and we can have drinks at toms..
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Loooong story.... but it just needed to be done. I'm on the good ol m62.. gm stage 2 tune

& that's fine with me! However, I don't know if Tom is up for that. There's always food!
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Originally Posted by Vander Nars
why didnt u buy an oem pump?
Why not replace a failed part with an upgraded part? If your OEM clutch couldn't handle the increase in power, would you upgrade or get another OEM?
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Well we will ask.. Lol why does it say "choose your tuner wisely" at the bottom? Didn't you buy Tom's hptuners from him?
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Originally Posted by TStone
Operation "Get Tom back in a cobalt" begins!
Uh, no. Not going to happen.

Originally Posted by briank6102
Wait.. I thought you... What?! Why did you get rid of your TVS?? And of course your 17 lol we will buy you a non-alcoholic zima!! Lmao and we can have drinks at toms..
I'm always down for drinks. You need to go to Chappy's with me. It's the restaurant on the corner of my block. AMAZING food and drink.

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Loooong story.... but it just needed to be done. I'm on the good ol m62.. gm stage 2 tune

& that's fine with me! However, I don't know if Tom is up for that. There's always food!
You know I'm always up for food
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Why not replace a failed part with an upgraded part? If your OEM clutch couldn't handle the increase in power, would you upgrade or get another OEM?
True.. I use the failing of stock as an excuse to get performance parts! That's why now I have 2.7 w/60's, phenolic spacer, dual pass plate, cx racing fmhe, strut bar, aeroforce interceptor, wb gauge, stage 2 belt and oversized tensioner, and WickedSS hptuned (which you'd never know without the tuner decal) lmao.. I can't wait for something else to go out!! That way I have a story to tell the wife as of why I need to buy something!!
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Originally Posted by briank6102
Well we will ask.. Lol why does it say "choose your tuner wisely" at the bottom? Didn't you buy Tom's hptuners from him?
Yes I did. I'm referring to the person that actually tunes your car. Choose him wisely.... Because here lately, we've been learning what happens when you don't

& that's the end of that subject.


But i'm interested in trying out Chappy's too! Tom always talks about it and whatnot.. WE can always go out to get food, and you two can get adult beverages and i'll get a cherry coke
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Sure wish I could get a new gauge cluster tho.. I thought I already bought one but turns out it never shipped.. Lol just giving you **** Tom!!
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Originally Posted by TStone
Yes I did. I'm referring to the person that actually tunes your car. Choose him wisely.... Because here lately, we've been learning what happens when you don't

& that's the end of that subject.


But i'm interested in trying out Chappy's too! Tom always talks about it and whatnot.. WE can always go out to get food, and you two can get adult beverages and i'll get a cherry coke
I'm highly curious about this TVS/tuner story... But if you don't wanna tell then I guess that's fine... :p
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Mmmmmm.. I'm hungry!! I might drive to Ohio just for that!! Lol it's only 4 1/2 hours at 120 mph.. I could hang with that..
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Originally Posted by briank6102
Sure wish I could get a new gauge cluster tho.. I thought I already bought one but turns out it never shipped.. Lol just giving you **** Tom!!
Listen here you! I have to hold something back to get my springs put on the Mazda
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Originally Posted by WickedSS2005
Listen here you! I have to hold something back to get my springs put on the Mazda
Lol.. I understand haha.. I'm gonna do the led swap on it so it won't be going in right away anyways.. Don't you guys get bad winters out there?? You sure you want me to install them before winter?? I'd be more than happy to if you want.. I owe you something for all you've done.. I just wanted to give you **** for a few days about it.. I want that grill with mesh too.. So don't throw it out!! Lol
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Originally Posted by briank6102
Lol.. I understand haha.. I'm gonna do the led swap on it so it won't be going in right away anyways.. Don't you guys get bad winters out there?? You sure you want me to install them before winter?? I'd be more than happy to if you want.. I owe you something for all you've done.. I just wanted to give you **** for a few days about it.. I want that grill with mesh too.. So don't throw it out!! Lol
Oh and that radar detector.. I need that bad!! I have 4 tickets in my glove box right now.. :sigh:


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