Has anyone bought the Clear Image Shorty header? If so, how does it sound compared to stock and did you notice any gains? Here is a link for it http://www.clearimageautomotive.com/...obalt%20SS.htm

 

First time I have seen those.

 

X2...Never heard of them before

 

They were a vendor on here a few months ago, but their proto type had fitment issues and then they dissapeared. I saw that one of the 2.4 guys had it listed in their sig, but I can't remember who.

 

i think it looks like a decent piece, plus it comes coated for 400. i mean i have no idea what header to get because their is always a downside to every choice... lol

 

I agree. It was actually one of the first to place the o2 sensor in the collector instead of the cylinder 4 primary. It had my vote until they dropped off the site. I have a Vibrant header/DP on order right now if they ever finish making them and ship them out.

 

www.zzperformance.com has them in stock all day long.

 

aja342 has the Clear Image header. He posts up in the NW section mostly. I've heard it with the Corsa cat-back. It sounds really good.

 

that looks like a zzp header that costs 55 dollars more , BOOOOOOOOOO

and zzp headers that are not ceramic coated are 250 + shipping

 

lol, i bought the pacesetter, but haven't put it on yet. 165shipped. i have heard nothing but good things about them.

 

I have the Clear Image Header. I can tell you that it is one of the best made pieces I have seen. The headers in the pic on the web site are a lil different from what they finalized. They are now 4-2-1 and really pick up revs faster. The O2 sensor is in the collector. The fitment issues were because they are almost a long tube design and need an extension for the sensor (new sensor location). Now that they are done prototyping they will most likely be building a down tube for the system as well.

Pics will be posted tonight.

 

Yes we are still around. Our shorty style had fitment issues so we stopped and moved on to a 4-2-1 design that works extremely well!!
We are the the only company that also took the time to get the correct firing order built into a 4-2-1 designed header.
The competition has it all wrong! This means that while their header will still function, it won't at the full potential that a 4-2-1 is designed for. Ours will
So stay tuned for more from Clear Image Automotive!!

 

will this header bolt up directly the the stock downpipe? Will it fit a 2.5 or 3 inch Dp? The o2 sensor has to be replaced, i though the o2 fitting was the same as the stock.

 

Glad to see you guys are still around.

Looks like a good quality peice and coated for $400.00 is good stuff.

 

Whats the collector size? It its got a 2.5" collector, I might just sell my CA header (2.25"" collector) and pick up one of those. I love the coating on it too. Looks like a quality piece.

 

No, sorry. Our 4-2-1 design is a 2 piece header. The first, ending in a 2-1/2" ball & socket, the second piece ends at the factory location behind the stock converter, 2-1/2" bolt flange.
Yep, we were pretty quite for a while. Very busy with a lot of projects for different cars.
Dan has not removed that first header from the web site yet, ( needs to! ) We will post up new pictures and pricing of the new 2 piece 4-2-1 header when Dan gets back form a big car show in Daytona this weekend.

The 2 piece header has a first section that ends in a 2-1/2" ball & socket. The 2 piece ends in a 2-1/2" factory style bolt flange.
We will be selling the our 2 piece 4-2-1header with a high flow all SS metal matrix converter, and flex coupler. This will allow our customers to utilize there stock O2 sensors without any extensions.
Tony's car was a prototype for us and an exception, as he wanted to keep his stock converter. Being these things are so large we had to do a custom fit and therefore had to use O2extensions. This will not be the case for our production headers.

 

Interesting. I really want to see your finished 4-2-1 with the DP and Cat. At this rate you could be finished before I get my Vibrant setup. Who knows. I may cancel it for yours.

 

We are done with what we need for jig's. We are just waiting for more high flow converter cores to show up and we can start producing our set-up
We already have the first section sitting on the shelf.
We go through a lot of high flow cats for other cars so it's hard to keep these things in stock!
Dan will be in on Monday ( after 12:00 noon, Pacific time ) so anyone can call in, or email and get more details for ordering.

 

How are the others wrong on the firing order? I just got to looking at it and if my info is correct the Ecotec firing order is 1-3-4-2. The Vibrant header has cylinders 1 and 4 paired and 2 and 3 paired. I thought the purpose of a 4-2-1 was to separate the pulse so they didn't interfere with one another. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I would like to know.

 

I am interested to know as well, and I also want to see some pictures of this setup. I am in the market for a new header/downpipe setup, so it would be nice to have another choice... Whats the projected price on this setup?

 

In a 4-2-1 ( Tri-y ) design you are increasing exhaust flow by having one piston help draw out the following firing pistons exhaust gases. So with a 1-3-4-2 firing order you want 1-3 paired and 4-2 paired up to work with each consecutive firing order.
The competition has this backwards for the most efficient flow.
Also how long the tubes are need to be taken into the effect of drawing out the following pistons exhaust gases.
Hope that helps you understand their mistake.

 

So wait, I am a little confused... would your 4-2-1 headers bolt up w/ say a GMPP Exhaust? With no issues / mods?

Thanks,
Rich

 

Yes, our 2 piece header is designed to end at the factory location behind the stock converter.
As long as any cat back system is designed to bolt up to that location, it will work with our 2 piece header without any modifications or welding.

 

Lets get some pictures and some prices then! I'm ready to buy the rest of my exhaust system!!

 

Wife just got back with the car...I will take some pics soon
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