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Old 12-20-2007, 09:16 PM
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Colder plugs on stock SS/SC?

Is it possible to run colder plugs on a stock S/C SS? If so, what are the benefits of this?
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colder plugs help to reduce detonation for modded vehicles.

not gonna do much stock.

a "general" rule of thumb is for every 50hp over stock, you go 1 step colder
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What does "colder" mean, anyways?
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Spark Plug Heat Range:

A spark plug's heat range has no relationship on the actual voltage transferred through the spark plug. Rather, the heat range is a measure of the spark plug's ability to remove heat from the combustion chamber. The heat range measurement is determined by several factors:

The length of the ceramic center insulator nose
The insulator nose's ability to absorb and transfer combustion heat
The material composition of the insulator
The material composition of the center electrode
The longer the insulator nose gives you a larger surface area exposed to combustion gasses and heat is dissipated slowly. This also means the firing end heats up more quickly. We are talking about exposed ceramic length, not extended tip length.

The insulator nose length is the distance from the firing tip of the insulator to the point where the insulator meets the metal shell. Since the insulator tip is the hottest part of the spark plug, the tip temperature is a primary factor in pre-ignition and fouling. No matter what the plugs are installed in, be it a lawnmower, a boat, your daily driver or your race car, the spark plug tip temperature must remain between 450°C to 850°C. If the tip temperature is lower than 450°C, the insulator area surrounding the center electrode will not be hot enough to deter fouling and carbon deposit build-ups, thus causing misfires. If the tip temperature exceeds 850°C, the spark plug will overheat which can cause the ceramic around the the center electrode to blister as well as the electrodes will begin to melt. This may lead to pre-ignition/detonation and expensive engine damage. (see the plug pictures that are part of this article)

In identical spark plugs, the differences from one heat range to the next is the ability to remove approximately 70°C to 100°C from the combustion chamber. A projected style spark plug firing temperature is increased by 10°C to 20°C.

The firing end appearance also depends on the spark plug tip temperature. There are three basic diagnostic criteria for spark plugs: good, fouled, and overheated. The borderline between the fouling and optimum operating regions (450°C) is called the spark plug self-cleaning temperature. This is the temperature point where the accumulated carbon and combustion deposits are burned off automatically.

Bearing in mind that the insulator nose length is a determining factor in the heat range of a spark plug, the longer the insulator nose, the less heat is absorbed, and the further the heat must travel into the cylinder head water journals. This means that the plug has a higher internal temperature, and is said to be a "Hot" plug. A hot spark plug maintains a higher internal operating temperature to burn off oil and carbon deposits, and has no relationship to spark quality or intensity.

Conversely, a "Cold" spark plug has a shorter insulator nose and absorbs more combustion chamber heat. This heat travels a shorter distance, and allows the plug to operate at a lower internal temperature. A colder heat range can be necessary when an engine is modified for performance, subjected to heavy loads, or it is run at high RPMs for significant periods of time. The higher cylinder pressures developed by high compression, large camshafts, blowers and nitrous oxide, not to mention the RPM ranges we run our engines at while racing, make colder plugs mandatory to eliminate plug overheating and engine damage. The colder type plug removes heat more quickly, and will reduce the chance of pre-ignition/detonation and burn-out of the firing end. (Engine temperatures can affect the spark plug's operating temperature, but not the spark plug's heat range).
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Originally Posted by an0malous
colder plugs help to reduce detonation for modded vehicles.

not gonna do much stock.

a "general" rule of thumb is for every 50hp over stock, you go 1 step colder
but it is safe to run them in my car... i plan on running a 2.7 pulley and having more boost, but im just planning ahead of time. If i can run the plugs and put them in earlier it will save some time when i get the pulleys.

Another question... Do I need any cooling moddifications to run the 2.7pulley?
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Thanks, an0malous
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Originally Posted by rockkrawler628
but it is safe to run them in my car... i plan on running a 2.7 pulley and having more boost, but im just planning ahead of time. If i can run the plugs and put them in earlier it will save some time when i get the pulleys.

Another question... Do I need any cooling moddifications to run the 2.7pulley?
I would order them if you know youll need them
but just wait and install them when you need them.
changing plugs takes 10 minutes tops.

too cold can cause deposits to form, and the plug can start shorting out
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i dont even know where the damn spark plugs are in my car!
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Originally Posted by ColeJJones
i dont even know where the damn spark plugs are in my car!
I am gonna pretend I never read this. BTW congrats on getting your exhaust done.
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Originally Posted by Stouffer
I am gonna pretend I never read this. BTW congrats on getting your exhaust done.
haha, dude its true. help me out! this aint like my v6
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Brk7e are one step colder ngk

your plusgs are right on top under a cover you have to take off

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Originally Posted by ColeJJones
haha, dude its true. help me out! this aint like my v6
Silver cover on top of the motor with about 4 torque screws in it. They are under that.
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an0malous coming thru with education FACTS...please people be like this...only stat FACTS not "IMO" unless u are saying its in ur opinion..some people take it to heart
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Originally Posted by rockkrawler628
Is it possible to run colder plugs on a stock S/C SS? If so, what are the benefits of this?
Colder plugs are a waste of money for a stock SS/SC. Even for a stage II cobalt it won't be a benefit. Anything smaller then a 2.99 pulley should go with one step colder. Or if you have stage II and alot of other mods giving you around 260+hp. Also depends alot on your tune.
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thanks!
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Originally Posted by ColeJJones
thanks!
come home cole...
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Originally Posted by Raven SS
come home cole...
I AM!!!!!!! I WILL BRING COOKIES TOO
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1 Step colder plugs on a stock SS/SC will most likely cause hesitation when the car is cold . If you don't let your car warm up to operating temp you will notice this , especially in winter . I run bkr7e's with a stage 3 pulley on a stage 2 tune , but in all honesty i could have gone without them until summer .
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I will agree with the masses here, it is unecessary in a stock SS/SC.

Stage 2 Cars it's getting to the point where it is a good idea! I went to the Bkr7e's when I dropped to the 2.85" pulley.

***Note to self.... I should prolly change them again here shortly***
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