Corvette killer, Cobalt SS\SC
05-05-2006 | 12:43 PM
#27
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From: Bay City, michigan
550 whp isnt imposable on a 2.0, remember the DSM's are 2.0's and i have some friends with 400+ whp eclipses, talons and lasers, a few of them are All wheel horse power!!! heck i had enough stuff in my garage to make a 500 plus whp monster DSM. but with that list USE CLEVITE BEARINGS, just cuz it has a GM tag doesnt make it good 
and if you can use at least eagle forged ESP Hbeam rods!! if your in there do it right!!
and if you can use at least eagle forged ESP Hbeam rods!! if your in there do it right!!
05-05-2006 | 12:46 PM
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From: florida
good luck man!
As for the " why not get a vette" i understand why you didnt.
People dont understand, you get more props from getting a cobalt from 200hp to 400hp then you would for a vette from 400 to 650.
people expect vettes to be fast.
As for the " why not get a vette" i understand why you didnt.
People dont understand, you get more props from getting a cobalt from 200hp to 400hp then you would for a vette from 400 to 650.
people expect vettes to be fast.
05-05-2006 | 05:22 PM
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From: Nassau County Long Island NY
Thats a really sick idea and i hope it works out for you. I was almost going to do a crazy $10,000+ build up on mine too but I decided I'm just gonna buy and 02-04 Z06 vette next year. Anyway I hope it works out for you, keep us updated.
05-05-2006 | 08:57 PM
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Update
I talked with JBP today about a few things for the build.
They suggested staying with the stage 2 pulley and injectors until after the tuning is done. I was told that because it will be a new engine again, sort of like a born-again virgin, that throwing too much fuel could cause a catastrophic failure.
We also decided to add to the list by going with porting the S\C, boring out the throttle body and adding new rail, customizing the chain tensioner, and poliching every inch of brush aluminum on the engine including the S\C.
They are getting quite excited about doing this build and I told them that I am keeping everyone here in the loop so if this works well\great JBP will get lots of free advertising.
Jonel or Zinner, I am not sure if you guys have approached them as a supporting vendor yet, but the fellow I have been talking to seemed surprised to hear about our site. Maybe now is a good time to contact them?
They suggested staying with the stage 2 pulley and injectors until after the tuning is done. I was told that because it will be a new engine again, sort of like a born-again virgin, that throwing too much fuel could cause a catastrophic failure.
We also decided to add to the list by going with porting the S\C, boring out the throttle body and adding new rail, customizing the chain tensioner, and poliching every inch of brush aluminum on the engine including the S\C.
They are getting quite excited about doing this build and I told them that I am keeping everyone here in the loop so if this works well\great JBP will get lots of free advertising.
Jonel or Zinner, I am not sure if you guys have approached them as a supporting vendor yet, but the fellow I have been talking to seemed surprised to hear about our site. Maybe now is a good time to contact them?
05-06-2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
If you do this I, you will be the best... ever lol.
JBP has already ordered the parts and started the mathematical equations required to do the cams for this build. 16 days from now I remove my engine to ship to JBP then the sleepless nights begin as I "dream" of big power in a little engine and grown men crying. That is except Cobalt owners who will rejoice, and then comes world domination.
05-19-2006 | 02:22 PM
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Update
The engine comes out this coming Tuesday and the following day the truck picks it up to take to JBP. JBP says 3-5 weeks for the build and people tell me that in real time that means 8 weeks. JBP is already doing the custom grinds for my cams and have ordered the parts we will be using including all the Ferrea parts which take a while to show up according to JBP.
I have contacted 2 companies on custom half shafts for this project and right now the concern is the ABS hub being to large for the work needed to handle 550hp.
I am going to be putting in the Quafie LSD as TTR says this will hold 700hp which works for my build. I am futher told that the F35 tranny is capable of what I am after.
I have also sent off an email to Hahn Racecraft outlining my plans as well as the intention of using a twincharged setup. I am hoping they will help by being the company involved in doing this part of this project.
I have also been talking to companies about either slicks or drag radials and it seems that drag radials will be easier to work with because of wheel size.
Then the hardest part of this whole project was taken care of this morning, I told my wife how much more this is going to cost. Now if I make it through the night it's all good
I have contacted 2 companies on custom half shafts for this project and right now the concern is the ABS hub being to large for the work needed to handle 550hp.
I am going to be putting in the Quafie LSD as TTR says this will hold 700hp which works for my build. I am futher told that the F35 tranny is capable of what I am after.
I have also sent off an email to Hahn Racecraft outlining my plans as well as the intention of using a twincharged setup. I am hoping they will help by being the company involved in doing this part of this project.
I have also been talking to companies about either slicks or drag radials and it seems that drag radials will be easier to work with because of wheel size.
Then the hardest part of this whole project was taken care of this morning, I told my wife how much more this is going to cost. Now if I make it through the night it's all good
05-19-2006 | 02:28 PM
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Well then, hope you make it through the night because I have to see this done. It's kind of like masturbation. You can only look at magazines and watch videos for so long. Then you need the real thing. Keep up the good work bro. Thanks for the updates too. 
05-19-2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by roccityroller
does JBP have a website?
good luck with the build...post pics when it's done...and it you need someone to help break it in...lemme know :evil:
good luck with the build...post pics when it's done...and it you need someone to help break it in...lemme know :evil:
As for breaking it in I am sure there will be no shortage of volunteers.
Originally Posted by sneaky
good luck on the project. look foward to hearing what happens. Hopefully they don't pull a halfcent..
Originally Posted by MOD MONEY
wow! thats gotta be like 9 grand worth
05-19-2006 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny
nice!
itll be a beast
do you plan on usin the stock blower?
how bout a nice whipplecharger, and then twincharge it
itll be a beast
do you plan on usin the stock blower?
how bout a nice whipplecharger, and then twincharge it
As for a whipple.....I am going to have to see what all this produces first and for this kind of project a couple of doors might open up simply because this is a first of it's kind on a LSJ that GM doesn't have a hand in, either technically or financially.
07-15-2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
As many of you know I am undertaking a major build on my engine. Today after working out a deal with JBP, I have upped the anti a bit for the build to ensure that this is one strong and capable LSJ capable of pushing 550hp with the addition of turbo\nitrious somewhere down the line. The following is a list of the work JBP will start once I ship my engine to them in 2.5 weeks. On top of this list will be the clutch, flywheel, custom drive shafts and drag radials needed to bear this kind of power. I should likely plan for a new tranny after I recover from the wife's beating that I am going to receive when she finds out what I said yes to
2.0L LSJ ECOTEC - ~550HP Build(this will only allow my engine to handle 550hp so that once other options are ready I am good to go)
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Block Components
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GM Main Bearing Kit
GM Rod Bearings
GM Balance Shaft Bearings
Full Head Set Kit
Engine Set
Intake Gasket Set
Crank
Water Pump
Front Cover
Cover Gasket
Outside Water Pump
Rear Main Seal
Nodular Iron Liners
ARP Head Studs
GM Main Bolts Kit
Bates Engineering Oil Pump Gears
Bates Engineering Valve Seals
JBP TriFlow - Custom Grind
(specs to be mathematically calc.)
JBP Adj. Timing Gears
Neutral Balance Shafts
TB Bore to req'd diam. (incld CNC plate)
JBP Hi-Performance Chain Tensioner
JBP Supercharger Porting
Supercharger Show Finishing
Alum. Engine Components Show Finishing
Block Machining
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Block Tricks Oil Passages Chamfer
Block Tricks Oil Passages Radius
Blend Known Casting Flashes
Full Balance on Rotation Assembly
Rec'v Engine, Teardown
Full Inspection
Bore + Sleeve, Reinforce Cylinder wall
Bore + Stone Grind Deck
After-Bore Wash and Clean
Inspect Polish Crankshaft
Cross Drilled Crankshaft
Full Assembly Long Block
Head
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JBP Stage 3(+1) Cylinder Head
(Combustion chamber ceramic coat+blend)
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Customer Supplied Parts
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Diamond Forged Pistons
Total Seal Gapless Rings
Piston Pins
Pin Locks
2.0L LSJ ECOTEC - ~550HP Build(this will only allow my engine to handle 550hp so that once other options are ready I am good to go)
------------------------------
Block Components
----------------
GM Main Bearing Kit
GM Rod Bearings
GM Balance Shaft Bearings
Full Head Set Kit
Engine Set
Intake Gasket Set
Crank
Water Pump
Front Cover
Cover Gasket
Outside Water Pump
Rear Main Seal
Nodular Iron Liners
ARP Head Studs
GM Main Bolts Kit
Bates Engineering Oil Pump Gears
Bates Engineering Valve Seals
JBP TriFlow - Custom Grind
(specs to be mathematically calc.)
JBP Adj. Timing Gears
Neutral Balance Shafts
TB Bore to req'd diam. (incld CNC plate)
JBP Hi-Performance Chain Tensioner
JBP Supercharger Porting
Supercharger Show Finishing
Alum. Engine Components Show Finishing
Block Machining
---------------
Block Tricks Oil Passages Chamfer
Block Tricks Oil Passages Radius
Blend Known Casting Flashes
Full Balance on Rotation Assembly
Rec'v Engine, Teardown
Full Inspection
Bore + Sleeve, Reinforce Cylinder wall
Bore + Stone Grind Deck
After-Bore Wash and Clean
Inspect Polish Crankshaft
Cross Drilled Crankshaft
Full Assembly Long Block
Head
----
JBP Stage 3(+1) Cylinder Head
(Combustion chamber ceramic coat+blend)
--------
Customer Supplied Parts
-----------------------
Diamond Forged Pistons
Total Seal Gapless Rings
Piston Pins
Pin Locks