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Old 10-08-2008, 12:33 PM
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You put so much money into JBP. Be a man and get your money back AND pull the project car.
Old 10-08-2008, 12:58 PM
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I did just get off the phone with JBP and he is thinking it is still just a spring because even though #1 is low, it is not low enough to be "butted rings". He says it is more likely that the srping is causing a valve to stick and not allow for the full range of compression to be acheived.
Now it is off with the valve cover time.


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Jesus man, So sorry! Crap. So what happens now?
More investigation.
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You put so much money into JBP. Be a man and get your money back AND pull the project car.
This has nothing to do with being "a man". I will make a decision based on what I discover today not the anger I am feeling.
As well taking a partially completed car and getting someone else to complete it is more headaches and cost.
Getting my money back is also easier said than done, as I have paid for what has been done and is it really fair to expect anyone to work for free? I know I don't.
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being a man means listening to what your wife says.
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Or else they actually become the man and put you in your place...

And by place i mean couch...
Old 10-08-2008, 05:48 PM
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haha. We all pick on Rod's wife but in reality we wish our wives or future wives could be as awesome as she is.
Old 10-08-2008, 05:53 PM
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Always listen to the wife man. Nobody else would stand by your decisions like the wife. Sorry to see so much trouble with your balts.
Old 10-08-2008, 06:42 PM
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You can't win an argument with your wife. It is a literal impossibility. You could be 100% right, and have 300,000 scientists, physicians, albert einstien, and Bill Nye the science guy behind you, and you'd still lose. Still though... RWD Balt
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
I did just get off the phone with JBP and he is thinking it is still just a spring because even though #1 is low, it is not low enough to be "butted rings". He says it is more likely that the srping is causing a valve to stick and not allow for the full range of compression to be acheived.
Now it is off with the valve cover time.



More investigation.


This has nothing to do with being "a man". I will make a decision based on what I discover today not the anger I am feeling.
As well taking a partially completed car and getting someone else to complete it is more headaches and cost.
Getting my money back is also easier said than done, as I have paid for what has been done and is it really fair to expect anyone to work for free? I know I don't.
Wait...you were doing the work or jbp was?

If you did the work then you can't really dump it on jbp (especially the sleeve work), if they did it then epic fail.

I mean couldn't you just swap the exhaust springs (possibly valves and retainers) for the first cylinder and that should fix the problem. Right?
Old 10-08-2008, 09:03 PM
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All those comp numbers seem low to me, most of the ones i've tested were damn near 200 or over, 190 minimum. Cams might cause the drop, but still...

Did they use the regular diamond pistons in there, or order up some oddball size or something?
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Agreed. The entire motor has stupid low compression numbers.
Old 10-09-2008, 03:04 PM
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Well there is no longer any doubt about whether or not the problem was from the bottom or top end of the engine.
It was a bottom end problem.
What conclusive evidence do I have that it was the bottom end?

The giant puddle of oil on the garage floor after a very obvious catastrophic internal engine sound.
Remember that "at least you didn't perforate your block" comment?
Well that is no longer the case. Something said f@#* you and the rest is just the cleanup.
The good news from this is, JBP is going to warranty the engine, lock stock and barrel.


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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
Well there is no longer any doubt about whether or not the problem was from the bottom or top end of the engine.
It was a bottom end problem.
What conclusive evidence do I have that it was the bottom end?


The giant puddle of oil on the garage floor after a very obvious catastrophic internal engine sound.
Remember that "at least you didn't perforate your block" comment?
Well that is no longer the case. Something said f@#* you and the rest is just the cleanup.
The good news from this is, JBP is going to warranty the engine, lock stock and barrel.
JBP FTL on this one. ... tell them to build this one right
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Well... as much money as your not spending on warranting the engine... thats still time that you just cant drive the damn thing.. and thats probly the worst part..
Old 10-09-2008, 03:16 PM
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Yes this has been one struggle after another. I am putting pressure on them to fix this very fast. The other car does carry some weight for me.
I have been so long without the car(s) that it really is becoming a major stree factor. I really don't like driving my pickup and now instead of selling it I need to re-insure it.
Old 10-09-2008, 03:19 PM
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oh im sure it does... you lose, they lose as well...

Im wihout my car for a couple days caue i have coolant leaking im freaking out... The last time my car broke down i tried to pretend i didnt have one just so i woudlnt think about it..

I ended up in a corner...
Old 10-09-2008, 03:21 PM
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holy **** man.... you need to go kiss the blarney stone in ireland or something to get rid of this nasty luck... actually i would say you need to full out get it on with that blarney stone.
Old 10-09-2008, 07:40 PM
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If I didn't have bad luck I wouldn't have any luck at all.
Perhaps we should start a pool on how long the replacement will last.
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If JBP builds it, a week.
Old 10-10-2008, 06:45 PM
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i bet it lasts longer then mine if mine comes back in the next ten years..... lol sorry to hear rod
Old 10-11-2008, 12:26 PM
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i bet it lasts longer then mine if mine comes back in the next ten years..... lol sorry to hear rod
What, they haven't finished it still??
I hope it lasts much longer than the 120 miles this one let go at.
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im waiting on a court date so i can actually get my car released from the mech.
Old 10-13-2008, 06:11 PM
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im waiting on a court date so i can actually get my car released from the mech.
That really sucks. I hope all goes well and quickly too.
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Ugh.... Rod again... lol
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Ugh.... Rod again... lol
I am thinking it is more like "still"
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
I am thinking it is more like "still"


Least JBP is taking care of you.... still


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