silverredline

what's up everyone...1st off, just signed up here looking for more knowledge on this devils own stage 2 meth kit i got...

i have a 2005 ion RL...i'll post all my mods...
lfp #60's, zzp 2.7, cobra h/e w/bwoody brackets, ngk 2 steps, kn cai, sms throttle body, gmpp header, vibrant 3" catback, zzp downpipe w/cat, autometer boost gauge, cobalt cross drilled/slotted rotors, power stop evolution brake pads, devils own stage 2, hp tuners (comps. to Ron9919-tuning/installs)

247.0 whp 244.6 wtq
(dynojet 4th gear pull)

turns out when i installed this meth, running 70/30 mix, got i dynoed a week after install...i lost 25whp with my setup!! turned off the kit, gained 25whp...

here's the pics of my dyno runs...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...0517081605.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...0517081603.jpg

some other things that only 2 people tried to help with on the rl forums said i'm spraying too much in and i'm getting bog...and to just set for less fuel and a lot more timing when spraying...anyone know of the best possible way to tune for these kits?? dyno tune, just get the hpt tuner update and also the best way to tune with hpt...i have no interceptor or wide band...

thanks for any input or suggestions...even if someone is close to my area and can get me tuned for this, i'd appreciate any help...

M-Dub

Well if you lost power there is deff. something wrong what was your AFR durring those runs, that'd help out!

If you got to large of a nozzle it would deff, be causing you to run way to rich robbing you of power!

AND FOR GODSAKE GET A WIDEBAND!

LamboW9

iTrader: (3)

if you had bought from AIS they woulda helped you figure out wats wrong and the best nozzle size for your car/mods

silverredline

lol, def. need a wideband...best place to buy, price, brand?? aem??
i'm going to put the smaller nozzle on it and see what happens down in MD when we try to tune this bad boy for it...hoping we can get use of a dyno for some #'s and afr reads...

can't believe it though, 25whp!!! but it runs awesome without it on my current tune, but spent a good amount of $$ for this and would like to run it at peek performance, ya know??

Josh@ottp

iTrader: (4)

Whats the nozzle size you currently have? Also pm me and we can take this to email and I will help you with your tuning.

M-Dub

I know a buddy of mine, that is running a 2.75 pulley, Intake, Megan Exhaust, and a custom tune, and I **** you not made 197whp because his meth nozzle was causing him to run 10.0-10.1 AFR's at WOT !

Altiery54

holy ****

M-Dub

He was running a nozzle used for a turbo ford V8, a little larger than the 300-500cc nozzle we need!

BTW his car now runs much better!

silverredline

that's crazy...what did he do when he changed his nozzle? what size did he put, and what were his before and after #'s...if you know...

and Fast98, pm sent...

lsjwannabe

iTrader: (1)

i like my 500 but i could use the 700, ui may switch over soon

Area47

i bought a 5pgh from devils own. never used it, so i gave it to him. retuned the car.

when you have to command 14.6 to get 12.0 afr. something is wrong. not enough airflow to warrant the use of a nozzle size he had in there.

the car did 227 on 12 degree's of timing and 11.5 afr on 12 psi. stupid blower settings.

silverredline

hmmm, interesting stuff...i'm running more power than that without my meth right now...any idea what the sizes are that i posted up?? i don't have the install directions, so all else fails, gotta call devils own directly