MfZx25z

Instead of going down a stage and messing with the charger I decided to take a different approach. I know some of you guys have tried it, so any comments or suggestions on this different way would be helpful. I am going to go with a H/E, water/meth kit, and duel pass intercooler endplate, and finally a tune by impoperformance. I was wondering the gains I would get from these mods and how the car would run?

HunterKiller89

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most people into serious power do both...usually like a 2.8 or 2.7 and meth with dual pass opt B along with a second HE

ralliartist

That's a great idea man. I'm already in the process of doing it. Although I must warn you, I do get a lot of criticism from the forums cause they don't think I'm really adding power. The link in my sig for cooling mods is a great right up on my progress. I'm currently trying to get back to the track to test out the new water/meth injection and a serious tune. Just for reference, I went 14.8@94 bone stock, then 14.4@101 with nothing more than a cobra h/e, exhaust cutout, and a raised rev limit to 7500rpms. My 60ft.s have been horrible in the 2.3 range. I now have the following mods:
CXRacing Front mount H/e (bigger than the cobra)
Water/Meth Inj.
exhaust cutout
Tune
slicks on 16" rims (no more crappy 60ft.s)

I'm adding 42.5lb injectors today and getting a better tune for the water/meth today and then hopefully the track opens sunday so I can test it out. Shooting for low 13's @ 105/106ish trap speeds.

rallycobalt06

ralliartist......do you have upgraded axles? if not, just wave bye bye to your stock ones. those slicks will grab so well, your stock axles will twist and shatter right there on the track.

invisible

Yep x2

Tennpenn83

how much of a difference does that option b make on the dual pass? i'm running option a right now

rallycobalt06

i actually just ran a cobra heat exchanger with the option b kit. i did buy the dual pass but have decided to sell it soon. the option b kit hold more coolant to run thru the system so that there is always colder coolant running thru.

MfZx25z

Thanks man it looks like you beat me to it. Those times are pretty impressive considering the car has no power add ons. I like your set up and am probably going to do something similar. Nice write on your link also, def helps a lot.

INFE

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Ralliartist you know those stock injectors are not good enough at 7500rpm. I have my rev limit set to 7200 and the injector duty cycle is 127%! I dont shift much past 6800 anymore. Well untill i get myself a set of 60 pounders.

MfZx25z

I heard that before, is that all you would need is 60s tho?

Maxim_X

The reason no one does it is because for much much much less money, you can yget 60's a tune and a 2.8. Easily trapping around 104-106(with a clogged DP) . I am sure your spending more than 500 for those things you want. And you may say it's safer to run your way. But, I guarantee your IDC's are out out of way and one may just **** out on you.

There's reasons people do what they do. I'm pretty cheap on my mods, I'm super safe and 250hp (fixed DP). My turbo will continue my trend only with more hp.

ralliartist

will 42lb injectors work? lol, just installed them last week and working on getting an awesome meth tune.

05BlackCobaltSS

Well it's not a bad thing to do. The cooler you run, the better. A plus is that in the future, if you DO want to go crazy, then you will have all the building blocks in place!

braineater

quoted for truth! can you get power cheaper going another route? yup, but the way you are doing it will ensure that you can can keep adding mods for awhile with out worrying about cooling

ralliartist

cheaper? Doing cooling mods first is the cheaper route. Here's my budget:

200= meth injection
150= CXRacing FMHE (you can get a cobra for around 50 bucks)
Tune= 100 bucks or less

total= 350-450 bucks

Most people spend well over a grand just getting stage 2. Or around 500 bucks just for stage 1 and then another 100 for a pulley. Intakes are 200+, just do the airbox mod!

Cooling mods IS the cheaper route AND it supports future mods.

lsjwannabe

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plus big ass h/e are cool looking

ralliartist

X2, Front mounts look sick. I don't know anyone that doesn't like front mounts. Oh wait a min. there is this one guy on my local board with a 3000gt vr4 that can't afford anything for his car that doesn't like front mounts. lol. He calls them ricey. But maybe that's because he can't afford them.

lsjwannabe

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i don't care what it looks like, if it betters my cars performance you better believe im going to do it.

ralliartist

I'm in the same boat man.

lsjwannabe

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when you plan on going back to the track

ralliartist

well, would have went today, but it was supposed to be 80 percent chance of rain, and I wasted a trip down there last weekend. So I didn't go. Called down there at 2:30 and they said they were open and wouldn't close till 4. Too late for me as I live 2hrs away. I got plans already for next weekend too. So probably in like 2 weeks. It gives me time to finish my tune too and let the weather clear up.

braineater

depends on how you do it, i spent 200 for 60# injectors and i think it was 70 buckss for a interchangeable pulley system, got my tune for free.

Rangerondubz

This isnt about making big cheap power its about making safe power. Which is what we all need. So that is why they are doing the cooling mods first just like I did

ralliartist

agreed! Just throwing on 60lb injectors (which I think are too big for the stock pump anyway) and a pulley is not the smartest route. Although it can be very cheap, you are asking for trouble. Cooling mods are still very cheap and give you back a lot more power than most people realize from what the stock "heaton" is taking away. Adding more boost and creating more heat without proper cooling is the result of tons of blown motors. Extra boost should come after proper cooling, fuel, and tuning have been accomplished.

lsjwannabe

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people that best the **** out of there car result in blown motors imo