organic E

how many people would be interested a block off plate alone, or a complete kit. Show of posts please. Is there enough interested that we could get a group buy together, and if so which vendor on ss.net would be a good candidate to take this to for a solution.

I got an email back from Mark Swain of Ariel, he said that they don't use the ecotec any more but has parts left over. Does have the adapter, but requires machining the block.

I am thinking more like a screw on plate that would have a stem that could separate clean side, dirty side of oil flow, that you could run an air to liquid after the filter and return the oil in the same location. I bought a kit off of eBay as it was listed for the cobalt, needless to say the seller received a very rude email from me. But it got me thinking about a solution and I don't think it would be overly difficult for a machine shop to make the adapter/block of plate. Even with just that piece anyone could fab up the rest of the kit.

korbar22

Cooling System

2.0L L4 Engine
8.7 liters
9.2 quarts

2.2L L4 Engine
7.0 liters
7.4 quarts

2.4L L4 Engine
7.0 liters
7.4 quarts

Engine Oil With Filter

2.0L L4 Engine
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

2.2L L4 Engine
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

2.4L L4 Engine
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

Fuel Tank

2.2L L4 Engine with NU6 Emissions - Sold new in CA, ME, VT, NY, NH, MA
51.1 liters
13.5 gallons

2.2L L4 Engine without NU6 Emissions - Sold new in all other states
49.2 liters
13.0 gallons

2.4L Engine - Sold new in all states
49.2 liters
13.0 gallons

Transmission/Transaxle - 4T40-E

Bottom Pan Removed
6.6 liters
7.0 quarts

Dry
12.2 liters
12.9 quarts

Complete Overhaul
9.0 liters
9.5 quarts

Manual Transaxle

Getrag 5 Speed - Drain and Refill
1.7 liters
1.8 quarts

Getrag 5 Speed - Dry
1.8 liters
1.9 quarts

MU3
1.9 liters
2.0 quarts

umrdyldo

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Engine Oil With Filter

2.0L L4 Engine LNF
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

2.0L L4 Engine LSJ
4.8 liters
6.0 quarts ?

2.2L L4 Engine
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

2.4L L4 Engine
4.8 liters
5.0 quarts

ItalianJoe1

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I work in a machine shop with CNC capability, I could fab up the piece if there is interest.

qwikredline

WRONG INFORMATION. I dont know where the Bowmanville guy gets this he is local to me but the LSJ specifies 6.5 litres with filter. the info is bogus....

I would go back to RD Fabs and tell them to clean up their intake manifold before I went to a remote oil filter. PITA. Yes they do. Here is a trap door pan with windage tray removed

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

You have all the cool toys John...

all4glh

As much as I'd like to go back to RD Fabs and have them clean up the turbo IM, the relocation kit is probably easiest.

roderick

with the tvs so takes forever to get the filter out i had to take and unplug some sensors to do it

mrbelvedere

iTrader: (3)

the cheap easey way is to use the stock adapter plate and thread it for an fittings u just remove the stock oil cooler

organic E

How many people would be interested in the adapter or complete kit.

I am #1,

What kind of price could we be getting into with say 10 people.

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

I'll have some sort of idea by tomorrow night. I have one of the bates plates, i'll figure out what would be involved in making something similar and let you know.

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

Got some ideas, will post up more info tonight. Are there 10 people interested?

all4glh

What exactly it is? Bolts from where to where?

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

Replaces the stock oil cooler stuff with a plate that has fittings on it to run to a remote oil cooler and/or filter.



I'm gonna do it by replacing the entire unit if I do, the stock one also has a thermostat in it that bypasses the oil cooler until 107 degrees celcius, so almost 225 degrees before it start to allow the cooler oil back into the motor. Doesn't fully open until 120 deg C, so almost 250F.

I'm looking at making a plate that bolts to the oil filter housing where the OEM cooler mount goes. Unbolt the stock stuff, bolt the plate on. I can include the fittings for whatever sise hoses you guys would want, i'm guessing around a -8AN or so, but you decide and i'll figure on the price. Looking at right around $100 for the plate with bolts and whatever as long as I get a couple people interested. The fittings will be extra, I can tap it for whatever fittings you want to use if you want your own ones.

You guys decide, if there is interest, let's get a list going and i'll get a small deposit, order the material, finalize details on the fittings, and I could have them ready to ship within a week.

all4glh

So we'd have to remove the current oil cooler?

Is there a way to do a drop in filter relocator into the current filter housing? So that we could use something like this http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAM-3310/?rtype=10 or http://www.summitracing.com/parts/HAM-3300/?rtype=10

mrbelvedere

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there ya go tap the 2 holes that go to the oil cooler for drill anf tap for pipe to a/n fittings im using -10 fitting and building my own lines to run to the cooler or you can run them to an external spin on filter adapter like all4glh has posted links to and then to a external cooler

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

Yes. There's no way to add fittings coming out of the stock oil filter location. You could do as mentioned above and drill/tap the piece shown, or use and adapter plate. Then you run the lines from that to whatever remote filter mount you choose to use.

You are just planning on using it for the filter though, right? There's a thermostat based bypass in the middle of that, so until it gets hot you won't get good oil flow through the outlet lines. If you're relying on a filter in that setup, i'd be sure to pull the thermostat out and block it off.

mrbelvedere

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i thought what you are talking about was an over pressure relif spring assembly i dident know it was a thermostat

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

Look at the copper piece in the middle, it has a temp rating stamped into it. Has to be a thermostat. Also, flow direction wouldn't make sense for it to be a pressure bypass. It blocks off flow to the cooler in the cold position.

mrbelvedere

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what is the best way to block it .off if your plate is a better way then im all for it i was just trying to show others a cost effective way of doing it not trying to step on toes

ItalianJoe1

iTrader: (10)

I'll have to give it a closer look tomorrow. The adapter plate i'd make would be easier for someone without the ability or time to modify the stock piece, and it would solve the thermostat issue, you'd get 100% flow through whatever you hook to it, bigger filter, cooler, whatever.

mrbelvedere

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great info joe i may be in for your adapter then

ItalianJoe1

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I'm here to help

organic E

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