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Old 05-11-2009, 02:42 PM
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F35 or not?

got a silly question...i have the ss that does not have the performance package(limited slip and recaro's) are the trannys the same? i.e. the same model jsut one withLSD and one not? Has anyone added the LSD to their car and is it THAT big of a diff thanks ya'll!if i missed this topic in my search let me know
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Its not really worth the cost if you're not into auto-x or track days (curvy type, not straight)
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Yep it's the same tranny .
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Yes I added it to my transmission and yes it was worth it to me.

I enjoy hitting the corners hard, that is what this car was made to do.
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it grips better on the launch, better 60 foots at the track.
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Originally Posted by scott allen
it grips better on the launch, better 60 foots at the track.
No, it doesn't.
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Originally Posted by red06SC
No, it doesn't.
X2 it wont help much if you are going in a straight line
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Originally Posted by jvc06sc
X2 it wont help much if you are going in a straight line
bull **** 2 tires pulling is going to have more traction than 1 idiots.

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No, it doesn't.
Yes it does!

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lsd does help at the track, you may not think so in 1st gear but with out it i would burn em down through second. With it i just bark thru second
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Originally Posted by scott allen
bull **** 2 tires pulling is going to have more traction than 1 idiots.



Yes it does!
You have no idea what you're talking about.

An LSD is NOT going to make a difference in a straight line acceleration unless one tire is on ice, and the other on dry pavement.

What a limited slip differential WILL DO is deliver near equal power to both wheels while turning.

With an open differential both wheels turn at the same speed in a straight line, but during extreme cornering power is transmitted to one wheel much more than the other, which isn't very efficient. An LSD fights this by not letting more than a certain amount of speed difference occur between the two sides, diving them more equally, resulting in better handling characteristics.
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^^ Yes.

In a straight line, the non lsd tranny will spin both tires at the same speed.

the LSD keeps the wheel speeds the same during cornering.

It has nothing to do with going straight..

Idiot.
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Originally Posted by red06SC
You have no idea what you're talking about.

An LSD is NOT going to make a difference in a straight line acceleration unless one tire is on ice, and the other on dry pavement.

What a limited slip differential WILL DO is deliver near equal power to both wheels while turning.

With an open differential both wheels turn at the same speed in a straight line, but during extreme cornering power is transmitted to one wheel much more than the other, which isn't very efficient. An LSD fights this by not letting more than a certain amount of speed difference occur between the two sides, diving them more equally, resulting in better handling characteristics.
^ x2 !!!! LSD does not launch better than open diff. unless one tire was on a crapier surface than the other .... my car in a straight line leaves 2 even tire marks on the pave when i nail it and i have an open diff.
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^^ It sure does.
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how would it be to get an lsd installed?
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a lsd is the same thing as a posi unit i gives power to both wheels 2 wheels have more traction than 1 wheel wich means you will get better 60 foot times.Dont be dumb asses hell if that is the case i want a 1 wheel peel that would improve my 60 foot times,oh wait all the bracket racers will have to take their lsd out to get more traction,wait then we would only need 1 slick instead of 2 god damn there is a bunch of dumb asses on here.
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You're only making an idiot of yourself.

Keep on arguing facts and believing what you want.
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what ever kid.
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Dude... your wrong...

They use the lsd so they can keep their speed through the corners.
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im not arguing, i just want to know how much it is to get one? lol
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Look one up.
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Originally Posted by BlackSSNick
im not arguing, i just want to know how much it is to get one? lol
most places are probably going to want more than its worth, and aftermarket units aren't cheap

it may be worth looking into to pick up a G85 transmission and swap it for your current one yourself
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Differentials work by allowing a flexible distribution of drive between the wheels on an axle, which allows for the different rates of rotation while cornering. However this flexibility is also the differential's weakness, as it will always allow drive to 'escape' via the easiest route. So if you are turning a corner while hard on the gas in a powerful car, you can find that the inside wheel starts spinning (due to the weight transfer leading to less grip), and you lose the ability to put power down on the road via the outside wheel. This isn't good, especially if you're trying to put in a good time on the track, and this is why the limited slip differential (LSD) was invented. The differentials shown in the diagrams above are known as 'open' diffs which means they have no mechanism to prevent this drive loss.
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http://www.offroaders.com/tech/limit...ferentials.htm
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Once again, the non lsd tranny will spin both tires at the same speed. If the inside tire loses grip, it freely spins. The lsd will transfer that extra "spin" to the ouside tire that has the most grip. Meaning that the inside tire will not try to spin any faster (as this will cause it to freely spin) and the outside tire will now take that extra tq.

'it says nothing in there about one wheel not being turned.

Because that is not how it works.

That article talks about the tires turning at different speeds during cornering. Which is EXACTLY what we are telling you.

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http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...HowAuburnWorks


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