Getting CA Stage 2 This Friday!!!
06-03-2008, 02:15 PM
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Getting CA Stage 2 This Friday!!!
After over a year of owning this car, I have finally decided to get staged. This friday I am having Cobalt-Addiction Stage2 Kit installed on my car. I'm really excited about it.
For those that don't know, the kit includes:
Stage #2PLUS : 2.8 ZZP Interchangeable Pulley system , 1 step colder ngk spark plugs , GM shortened belt , 42# Lucas Injectors , Injector Wiring harness , Stage #2 Retune ... Est. 55 Hp over stock - 16.5 psi boost
Anything I should know about running a setup like this? I'm running stock exhaust, will I be ok with that for now?
I'll bump this thread back up when I get it on and let everyone know my thoughts.
For those that don't know, the kit includes:
Stage #2PLUS : 2.8 ZZP Interchangeable Pulley system , 1 step colder ngk spark plugs , GM shortened belt , 42# Lucas Injectors , Injector Wiring harness , Stage #2 Retune ... Est. 55 Hp over stock - 16.5 psi boost
Anything I should know about running a setup like this? I'm running stock exhaust, will I be ok with that for now?
I'll bump this thread back up when I get it on and let everyone know my thoughts.
06-03-2008, 02:44 PM
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06-03-2008, 02:54 PM
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2.8 is actually what most ppl go to with 42# injectors and rich gm stage2 tune...it leans them out safely w/o having to get a tune...but CA is known for having insanely lean tunes...recommendation...a minimum of a narrow band a/f gauge or wideband to make sure your not leaning it out
06-03-2008, 02:57 PM
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2.8 is actually what most ppl go to with 42# injectors and rich gm stage2 tune...it leans them out safely w/o having to get a tune...but CA is known for having insanely lean tunes...recommendation...a minimum of a narrow band a/f gauge or wideband to make sure your not leaning it out
06-03-2008, 02:59 PM
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you need cooling mods and a good tune. That box tune is ****. Trust me. I've raced a local guy with CA stage 4 and we were dead even until I pulled away at the top of 3rd. I posted it in the vids section a few weeks ago.
06-03-2008, 03:02 PM
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i was going to say if the price is comparable around 500 then just get the zzp stage 3...its what i have....its a 3.0 pulley an hub with 42# injectors and the tune is a lil rich but its safe an they will tune for your modifications
06-03-2008, 03:06 PM
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Dropping pullies DOES NOT lean out a AFR. The PCM is still going to command the same AFR even if a 2.0 pulley is on the car. The only reason dropping a pulley size would make you run lean is because you are maxing the injectors and they cant supply enough fuel to keep the commanded AFR. And that is not a good thing at all. Pullies do NOT controll AFR, tunes do.
06-03-2008, 03:06 PM
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then make sure you don't get a box tune, make sure they dyno tune your car. And also, get cooling mods with that small of a pulley. Get AT LEAST dual pass and bigger heat exchanger.
06-03-2008, 05:03 PM
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UPDATE
I've decided to play it safe. I just ordered the GMPP kit on CED instead. I got a great labor rate from the dealer, and I'll feel a lot more safe now. Anyone know how fast CED usually ships?
I've decided to play it safe. I just ordered the GMPP kit on CED instead. I got a great labor rate from the dealer, and I'll feel a lot more safe now. Anyone know how fast CED usually ships?
06-03-2008, 06:33 PM
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for a full road tune (usually about 2 hours of fun) I charge $250, with free updates. but you will probably pick up 20-30whp over the canned tune, and driveability will be a lot better.
Ask ralli, he's basically running my superstock tune. (if that's still the one he got off of sheek360 lol)
Ask ralli, he's basically running my superstock tune. (if that's still the one he got off of sheek360 lol)
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for a full road tune (usually about 2 hours of fun) I charge $250, with free updates. but you will probably pick up 20-30whp over the canned tune, and driveability will be a lot better.
Ask ralli, he's basically running my superstock tune. (if that's still the one he got off of sheek360 lol)
Ask ralli, he's basically running my superstock tune. (if that's still the one he got off of sheek360 lol)
**** i don't know. hard telling what sheek did to it.
06-03-2008, 07:45 PM
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The Cobalt Addiction Stage 4 Retune on my buddy's car at WOT has an AFR of 10.6:1 .... thats pretty rich, idk where people are getting they are lean. I know this information is accurate because I work for GM and checked the AFR with the Tech 2 scan tool and from my knowledge they are very accurate.
But the IAT2s are in the area of usually 185-almost 200 degrees .......
But the IAT2s are in the area of usually 185-almost 200 degrees .......