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Old 10-11-2005, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
i heard that gm was releasing the stage kits in japan for the cobalts!

the price is

stage one: $19.99

stage two: $1,000,000

stage three: first born child (or mother-in-law)


lol i love all these rumors about the pricing, keep them coming cause it's entertaining
Want get much for the mother-in-law
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Originally Posted by codyss
Due to the fact that the injectors are allready pretty big I doubt they will be much bigger. And if they are the stock FP and FPR is more than enough.
Stock the injectors are running at ~95% duty cycle at WOT. I know I have measured it with my DTEC-FC. Granted it's pretty rich with the stock setup, but who knows what the new PCM calibration has in store. At any rate they should really never run over 80%.

whats stock FP and FPR mean? Are you talking about just increasing the fuel pressure to get more fuel out of the injectors? If so I think that would be a good lower cost alternative. What it comes down to is the ECU program that I want. If I have to buy some injectors to get it I will.

As for the warrenty nay sayers (not addressed at codyss)

Rest assured GM will honor the warrenty on the staged upgrades.
Old 10-12-2005, 08:25 AM
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I talked to the service manager at my dealership and he said the stages would be covered under warrenty as long as its installed at the dealership.....
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who can prove the parts were not installed at the dealership? cha ching ... I just saved a bunch of money on my car by getting off my ass and doing an install
Old 10-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Warranty

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who can prove the parts were not installed at the dealership? cha ching ... I just saved a bunch of money on my car by getting off my ass and doing an install
The dealerships have access to all service work performed on your car. They will know if any GM dealership installed the parts.
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FP- Fuel Pump
FPR- Fuel Pressure Regulator
Old 10-14-2005, 09:30 AM
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I cant wait till SEMA so we can stop with all the rumors and speculation.
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Originally Posted by epiphany
I cant wait till SEMA so we can stop with all the rumors and speculation.
Only 3 more weeks!
Old 10-14-2005, 02:43 PM
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I hope the stage 2 won't be too much $ and I hope it will kick ass power wise after that. Here's another quick question, what vendors (name brands) will chevy use in there upgrade kits????????
Old 10-14-2005, 03:01 PM
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a close friend of mine's dad happens to run the plant were these cars are made(i told this story about him in my woodward post) and about 2-3 weeks ago he called me over to his house to check out his car now normaly he drives a ss/sc from there fleat but this time was a much differnt story.i saw a red cobalt with painted calipers so when i went up to him to ask what the **** it was all he said to me was "this is stage upgraded car and its goin out to sema but i have to put some miles on it just to check every thing out".. now i tryed to take a few pics but he quickly put a stop to that now after a very short drive in this car i can tell you this for shere. it shere as hell feels like it a raised redline and from what i could see it was a it higher and its brutly quick i wanted him to race a srt-4 from the stoplight but the car had not been totaly brokin in yet so that dident happen but yea after that drive i was totaly blown away and i cant waite to get that on mine. i dont think any of us will be disapointed
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Stage kits

Originally Posted by fflores
ah you crazy SS guys.. just like us a few years back with the SRT... so much speculation, all i can say is that it will probably be good bye warrenty, though i'm sure some dealerships will still honor some aspects of it, but it will be a dealership by dealership thing... good luck guys, I on the other hand am getting stage 2 for my srt tomorrow

Actually, the GM Stage I and II will not only carry a warranty, they will be 50 state emissions legal; and will not void the warranty on the vehicle on which they are installed. They are going to great pains to achieve these things and it will translate to higher cost. But ask any of the SRT owners who got stuck by the dealer when they saw a Stage I/II/III kit and lost warranty coverage on something totally unrelated if they would have paid a few dollars more for warranty. Or ask those who live in California how fun it is to find CARB certified parts for their cars.. GM stuff will not be inexpensive, nor will it be cheap.
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Originally Posted by 05RedSS
So I said what's the horse power rating? He said "can't tell ya." then the light turned red and he sped off......pretty fast considering it was raining.

I'm suprised no one caught this... I just thought it was funny.


Anyways i'm excited myself for the Stage Upgrades. I can't wait. Definately be nice with the K&N CAI, Header, and Full Exhaust. Car will be pushin' sub 300hp i'm guessing.


Oh yea i forgot to tell you guys... My baby's momma, sisters brother's daddy called me up and told me that his baby's daddy's sisters cousin drove a stage upgraded cobalt ss that cost 5k.... nevermind j/k... thought i'd have some fun with this thread
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whhat is the date for seme. It's almost novermber.......SWEET
Old 10-25-2005, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by CoBoltz007
whhat is the date for seme. It's almost novermber.......SWEET
SEMA is Nov 1st-4th

www.semashow.com
Old 10-25-2005, 10:47 AM
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7 More days!!!!!!
Old 10-25-2005, 11:18 AM
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Hopefully it will be a reasonable price though.

For example $1000 for a stage one would be completely unacceptable IMO.

We all know the cost of a pulley and injectors. The only question mark would be the reflash. I'll take a look at what the rsx guys are paying for their reflashes.

Edit:

Just took a look over at clubrsx.com. The reflashes are about $590. I wonder if this will reflect at all how much the GM reflashes will be.
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Originally Posted by MarcS
Hopefully it will be a reasonable price though.

We all know the cost of a pulley and injectors.

For example $1000 for a stage one would be completely unacceptable IMO.

Sad thing is that I bet it will be right around that price range, plus if you have them install it an additional $300-$500
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Originally Posted by MarcS
Hopefully it will be a reasonable price though.

For example $1000 for a stage one would be completely unacceptable IMO.

We all know the cost of a pulley and injectors. The only question mark would be the reflash. I'll take a look at what the rsx guys are paying for their reflashes.

Edit:

Just took a look over at clubrsx.com. The reflashes are about $590. I wonder if this will reflect at all how much the GM reflashes will be.
Yeah, reflash and labor are going to kill us on the price, but didn't I read that there's only one reflash? Somewhere it said the reflash was with stage 1 and it would also carry over to the smaller pully which is stage 2. So we'd be paying for the reflash in stage 1 and the pully in stage 2...
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Originally Posted by alleycat58
Yeah, reflash and labor are going to kill us on the price, but didn't I read that there's only one reflash? Somewhere it said the reflash was with stage 1 and it would also carry over to the smaller pully which is stage 2. So we'd be paying for the reflash in stage 1 and the pully in stage 2...
From what I've heard that is correct.

The reflash should be the most expensive item. If we could purchase it seperately that would be ideal, as I'm sure they are going to raise the cost of the injectors too.

Once we know the injector size they plan to use, I see myself buying them from another company for less.

I also plan to use the SFPH 2.8" pulley instead of the 2.9" GM pulley.
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Originally Posted by MarcS
From what I've heard that is correct.

The reflash should be the most expensive item. If we could purchase it seperately that would be ideal, as I'm sure they are going to raise the cost of the injectors too.

Once we know the injector size they plan to use, I see myself buying them from another company for less.

I also plan to use the SFPH 2.8" pulley instead of the 2.9" GM pulley.
As long as they don't gouge the price on the injectors too much, I don't care I'll buy the reflash and injectors together, but I'm with you, I think I'm going with a different pulley.
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Originally Posted by MarcS
From what I've heard that is correct.

The reflash should be the most expensive item. If we could purchase it seperately that would be ideal, as I'm sure they are going to raise the cost of the injectors too.

Once we know the injector size they plan to use, I see myself buying them from another company for less.

I also plan to use the SFPH 2.8" pulley instead of the 2.9" GM pulley.

The GM pulley is 3 inches. 77.9 mm to be exact which is:

77.9 millimeters = 3.06692913 inches
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Originally Posted by zinner
The GM pulley is 3 inches. 77.9 mm to be exact which is:

77.9 millimeters = 3.06692913 inches
My mistake, Not sure why I was thinking of 2.9" then

More of a reason to use a 2.8"
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looks like i better start saving for these parts cuz it seems to me they will be coming out soon damn i need a new job
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if stage 1 is $1000, especially if it doesn't void your warranty. If that's the case, psi-fi will be looking even better to a lot of people. Speaking of the psi-fi kit, how it it working for the people that have it? Is everyone still getting some sputtering and/or warning lights?
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check it out in the new hotrod magazine, they claim that GM's stage II is a pulley and injectors and will put us at 14-15psi(which alot of guys already have) no HP claims yet though


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