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Old 04-12-2006, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
Stage 3 is the twin-charging isn't it? If that's the case you will need many more parts than just the stage 3 kit. Including a clutch and tranny.
The tranny is out of the SAAB 95, which stock easily handles the 260HP and 258 torque its turbo produces. I'm not sure about the clutch though...
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Originally Posted by Blown 4-banger
why the hell would any car company cover a vehicle equiped with nitrous under warentee? nitrous blows sh*t up no matter how well its tuned. I think it would be better to just screw the warnetee and get the intense stage 3, gm will probably try to BS there way out of the warentee anyway.
The Ford/Saleen dealership down the road has a Saleen Focus nitrous-equiped for sale under warranty. I was like when I saw it, but it's covered.
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Originally Posted by snvowles
The Ford/Saleen dealership down the road has a Saleen Focus nitrous-equiped for sale under warranty. I was like when I saw it, but it's covered.
It has a warranty till you fill the bottle up and hook it up. Then Kiss your warranty goodbye.
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yup^^^

i looked at them, it comes with everything but the bottle. once yuou spray it no more warrenty
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Pretty sure stage 3 is being developed, and i'll bet its worth the wait. Just gotta wait for word from GM what they have up their sleeve this time.
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For the record:

Stage III is in the works. it is currently in the works to be the following.

-ecu calibration
-clutch kit
-axles/half shaft
-S/C pully
-Serp Belt
-injectors
-fuel pump
-??????LSD????????????(this portion is posibly going to be an add on to the stage kit)

this is all I have been able to find out so far. but I will keep searching, and post as soon as I find more.
Old 04-13-2006, 12:28 AM
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oh sorry forgot the important part.

as of right now "in the range of 290WHP"
Old 04-13-2006, 12:37 AM
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I highly doubt they're going to add clutch/lsd/axles on a stage kit.

With numbers like that it's probably powerful enough not to have a warranty, and probably not emissions legal either (not that most people care about that).
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Originally Posted by DealerTechwSS
For the record:

Stage III is in the works. it is currently in the works to be the following.

-ecu calibration
-clutch kit
-axles/half shaft
-S/C pully
-Serp Belt
-injectors
-fuel pump
-??????LSD????????????(this portion is posibly going to be an add on to the stage kit)

this is all I have been able to find out so far. but I will keep searching, and post as soon as I find more.
That's a total crock!
Who/What's your source??
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Old 04-13-2006, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
That's a total crock!
Who/What's your source??
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I don't care who posts what, I believe WOP over anyone till they PROVE him wrong, and that's not easy to do usually.
Old 04-14-2006, 12:36 AM
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Sources are:
-WWW.gmcommontraining.com under the course section Emerging Issues. Title Previously recorded IDL brodcasts "Cobalt SS"
-John Desilva (not sure exactly how his name is spelled) but he is my GM warrenty rep.
-GM Dealerworld
-GM service parts technical assistance center Rep.

here is also something else to note, what I described as stage III was orginally going to be stage II, the orginal stage I plan became what we know today as stage II. I would be happy to post some of the IDL brodcast videos on a public web site, but I don't really think proveing a point is worth loseing my job. perhaps there is another member who works at a dealership that has a bigger set of ***** then I do.
Old 04-14-2006, 12:47 AM
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I wont' get my hopes up, and I don't think anyone else should either. If they do it cool, but if not oh well. I hoping we wouldn't have anymore speculation threads now that 1 and 2 are out. *sigh*
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Originally Posted by DealerTechwSS
Sources are:
-WWW.gmcommontraining.com under the course section Emerging Issues. Title Previously recorded IDL brodcasts "Cobalt SS"
-John Desilva (not sure exactly how his name is spelled) but he is my GM warrenty rep.
-GM Dealerworld
-GM service parts technical assistance center Rep.

here is also something else to note, what I described as stage III was orginally going to be stage II, the orginal stage I plan became what we know today as stage II. I would be happy to post some of the IDL brodcast videos on a public web site, but I don't really think proveing a point is worth loseing my job. perhaps there is another member who works at a dealership that has a bigger set of ***** then I do.
The information you are quoting from is almost a year old now. As you mention the "final" incarnations of the existing stage kits are a wee bit different from what John Heinricy Director of GMPD described in the those IDLs on the Cobalt SS. To the best of my knowledge GMPD announced in December that any further "Stage kit" development for the existing Cobalt SS (Stage 2+ or Stage 3) has been placed on hiatus until further notice. The will continue to develop parts, but nothing in a "kit"form such as the current ones. Until there is an official statement from GMPD that this has changed I cant see how anyone would put them into their plans. You can go ahead and speculate all you want.
Right now the next "stage" is a Phase 5 or Grand Am Cup car
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Old 04-14-2006, 09:43 AM
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did not think gm was comming out with a stage 3... any time soon at least
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I have the same information as DealerTech has........
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Originally Posted by WopOnTour
The information you are quoting from is almost a year old now. As you mention the "final" incarnations of the existing stage kits are a wee bit different from what John Heinricy Director of GMPD described in the those IDLs on the Cobalt SS. To the best of my knowledge GMPD announced in December that any further "Stage kit" development for the existing Cobalt SS (Stage 2+ or Stage 3) has been placed on hiatus until further notice. The will continue to develop parts, but nothing in a "kit"form such as the current ones. Until there is an official statement from GMPD that this has changed I cant see how anyone would put them into their plans. You can go ahead and speculate all you want.
Right now the next "stage" is a Phase 5 or Grand Am Cup car
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I'm just waiting for word from GMPD like you've stated. I have a good idea what's coming, but i need to hear them say it.
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For what it's worth, I met an SS/SC driver tonight who says his girlfriend's father works for Eaton. Claims they ARE working on a Stage 3, and it involves a new blower.

Take it with a grain of salt - like I did - but he says 375hp.
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Originally Posted by ballerSS
For what it's worth, I met an SS/SC driver tonight who says his girlfriend's father works for Eaton. Claims they ARE working on a Stage 3, and it involves a new blower.

Take it with a grain of salt - like I did - but he says 375hp.
eaton might be doing a stage 3 with a new blower, but doubt GM is...
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I was just talking to NASA and they are testing the Stage 3 CSS cuz they wanna see if the car will hold together with the shuttle thrusters attached.

I love speculation.
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Originally Posted by p7x
I was just talking to NASA and they are testing the Stage 3 CSS cuz they wanna see if the car will hold together with the shuttle thrusters attached.

I love speculation.
lmao that made me cry.
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Originally Posted by p7x
I was just talking to NASA and they are testing the Stage 3 CSS cuz they wanna see if the car will hold together with the shuttle thrusters attached.

I love speculation.
ya but the CSS is having o-ring and re-entry problems due to the 14k or was it 16k redline of the blower
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i work at a chevy dealership. if i hear anything, i'll let you guys know. this is also TCarter (Tivie85 just has his computer auto log on)
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Yay for bringing back old threads!


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