So I'm so confused! Should I go with GM Stage II or Intense Stage II? I don't care about the warranty issue at all. ORRRRR Should I just go for the gusto and get the Intense Stage 3 or 4?! lol I can't make up my mind! I want my car to be very reliable also....

 

I've heard bad things about the intense tunes so I would say go with the gm stage 2, but that's just my oppinion.

 

oh really ive heard good things.......hmm thanks for letting me know that

no more opinions?

 

If you don't care about the warranty do intense stage 4. Do you know someone that has HPtuners? Because their tune sucks. You could save 200 bucks from not buying the pcm. The machined snout is actually good from intense. Save yourself a little grief and it will have the hub on there already for you. Everything else I would mix and match the parts. Intense stage 3 was the first mod on my car. Wish I would have know then what I know now.

KATE

 

yeah, if i were you I'd either go gm stage 2 with warrenty. if you don't care about the warrenty then I would hit up the stage 4 from intense.

 

why does the tune suck?

 

numerous ppl have blown their **** up on the intense tunes...

 

damn man are you serious?! thats crazy!

as guess you could call that PRETTY INTENSE! lol

 

yeah they blow there motors running intesnse stage 4 or 5 with no wideband and full exhaust , but if i were you i would go with gm stage 2 its way WAY more reliable

ill put it to you this way , who would you want cooking you a whopper , mc donalds or burger king ,answer that question and then ask your self why you would want intense to work on a car that gm built especially if gm has pretty much the same aftermarket

 

yea i see what your saying just everyone has told me GM kits arent all that great with the tune! i have heard good things about intense plus GM kit is expensive

 

well look , if you know someone with hp tuners thats cool , then you can just get the hub, pulley, injectors, and belt and have him tune your car with a modified stage 2 tune , if you want im selling my stage 2 injectors (there lucas not gm , supposidly they flow better) Stage 2 hub and stage 2 pulley , ill let it go for 200 shipped , then you just need the tune and the belt , i feel as if im missing something but i could be wrong

if you do it that way , they should charge you 100 $ or so for a premade tune , 40 $ belt , plus 200 comes out to 340$ installed if you do the labor yourself

 

that sounds awesome last time i bought something over the internet i got screwed lol

 

gm stage 2

 

ok i now this is a dumb question how much does a GM stg2 cost? on average?

 

You can get GM stage II for $550 from crate engine depot.

 

TAG tunes have a good rep..check hem out, they are a supporting vendor on here!

 

In my opinion......

I would do this
60 lb injectors
Custom tune with HPT

Get your snout machined and pulley from where ever they are all the same



I have GM stage 2 and I love it.

Thing is I am near the threshold of what I can do safely. My injectors are near max duty, I can’t add a CAI for fear of thinning out the Air/fuel ratio, and if I added a full custom exhaust I would want a custom tune anyway.


So it you want more hp and torques then what ive got. find another route.

i got on the dyno before and after GM stage 2 and then with my 2.79 pulley.

Stock 206 hp

GM stg 2 239 hp

2.79 247 hp and the guy said he thought he heard my car miss right at the end.

just my 2 cents

 

Dude there is no debate here. Go with the GM stage 2. If you dont feel like giving GM anymore of your money I'd go with TAG RaceCraft next, they develop and test thier products properly.

 

Not too sure about how the tunes from intense are for the lsj, but for the gtp's a lot of people went boom with them. I have a stage 2 and love it.

 

Stage 2 is good, but it does run rich. I have it right now and average 17mpg city, 25 highway. It has been reliable, no surges, AC works perfect.

I'm going to switch to the 2.8 + 60lbs injector setup, with a tagracecraft tune. Just want some xtra power

 

I love my gm stage 2 kit (as well as my other goodies). Sure there are other kits available that will give me more power. Yes the GM stage kit is a little rich, but it is better than running lean. At the end of the day though, I do not have to worry about coming up with $4000 to replace my motor if it blows up. Some of you say you do not care about your warranty, but just keep that figure in your head. If you have a spare 4k to purchase and install a new motor, then run whatever you want. If you do not, then go with the GM stage 2 kit and build upon that. Quite honestly I trust GM's engineering skills more than Intense, Tag, or cobalt-addiction. Keep in mind that GM has been around for almost 100 years. None of the other companies can say that.

 

go intense and get someone to tune it!

 

My MPG went UP with the stage 2 from 20mpg to just about 22mpg all city driving.

 

If you don't care about your warranty, Y not go GM stg3?