BravoPuma6

badass pics dude, any one know how much the super 20 version will cost?

Cobalt4Life

wont know till hahn says so lol, they never tell the price before it hits the shelves due to people getting upset if the price isnt the same as said before..

the stage 2 kit for the 2.2's and 2.4s is in the mid 3 thousands.. so i am guessing with the full kit around 4k and up..

either way i cant wait to see this kit done on his car, that portfueler keeps crying to me, "buy me, buy me"

Gonna have to get a custom kit from hahn as i want that portfueler, but i dont need the super20 version.. not yet atleast

did ya ever wonder about putting on the intercooler NX kit.. the spray bar that is hooked to the intercooler that sprays nitrous on the intercooler. looks to be a lot safer than injecting it into the piping.

must have more pics


EDIT:

Question to Hahn, when in relavation to this portfueler working on the 2.2 i just realized where the charge piping is and the left charge pipe would not allow the hahn intake manifold to fit.. ugg this would be problem..

memphisr24

Just do a little custom piping....I'm going to be custom making my whole turbo kit if hahn doesn't release their 20g by the end of this month....it really isn't that hard to do if you know what you're doing...and will save you TONS of money...(not bashing hahn, just stating obvious)

mike25

weeeeeellll im not sure about TONS of money...i think im around either 3200 or 3400 right now....but i guess you could say you would save close to if not a 1000

memphisr24

Well that's tons of money to me since i'm a starving college student! lol but yes that's right around where i'm looking at...I can get everything I need for around 2700-2800 (and thats high balling it for me...I think it was more like 2500 last time I did number crunching)...But if I run into problems, it may cost more...and that's intercooled as well

2K5SS/SC?

You could do a self made turbo kit that would make 350-400whp for these cars for under $2000 easy. You just have to buy the right stuff and know what you're doing. I might just give it a whirl when I get back to see if I can indeed do it too.

G WOOD82

I'm sorry but with the cheapest set up i dont think you could hit under 2000 dollars if your wanting 350-400 hp. Come one lets say you use a gt3076r like most thats 1250 right there.... So you can do the rest of the build for 750?? I don't think so, but now you could do it under 3000, because I'm doing it right now but I've passed 2 already lol.

memphisr24

Technically, if you bought all ebay parts, you could make a kit for like a grand no joke....They even sell a turbo manifold on ebay for our cars forl ike 150 bux. But I don't know how reliable the parts would be lol

mike25

is the 5 bolt turbo outlet using a gasket? Reason i ask is because atp told me they just run it metal to metal...im guessing theres a possibility that could work since the flange is super flat and hugs the turbo with no gap

yea...im picking up the parts as good as i can...and brand new...nothing used yet...and i doubt i go that way

G WOOD82

ya i cant do that ebay ****. I mean for somethings maybe but not for turbo parts. I bought the TiAL 44mm wastegate, HKS SSQV BOV, Hahns portfueler intake manifold, gt3076r turbo, and the rest is yet to come.

memphisr24

LOL the other day I was looking at a 93 toyota camry engine bay...it was the 2.2 4 banger.....hooly crap, must've been the easiest engine to do a turbo kit on...everything was just right there...and then I looked at my car and took out my .45 handgun

2K5SS/SC?

Real MHI EVO III 16G w/ gaskets $540 shipped
Vulcan Manifold $325
Megan Racing o2 Housing Turbo outlet $109 shipped
16g Turbo outlet J-pipe $80 shipped
Tial BOV $200
Fast-Turbo oil feed/return kit $99 shipped
Coolant feed/drain lines & miscellanous fittings $100
ATP Turbo supercharger delete kit $220
Homemade idler kit/pulley $50 max
2 ea. 2.5" Vibrant 2-bolt exhaust flange $40 shipped
Rebel Auto Worx MAF bung $50
3" Dynomax 90* mendral pipe $30 local parts store
2 ea. Dynomax J-bends $60
2.5" exhaust flex joint $20
2 ea o2 bungs $20
1.75"-2.5" exhaust adapter $5
2.5"-3" exhaust adapter $5
Reinforced couplers $30 local plumbing warehouse or parts store
Welding wire for my welder $40

$2023 total

- I already own a welder and do have the fab skills needed
- I already own HPTuners and 60lb injectors, and can tune myself

Here are some pics of my Integra to see where I got my info from just to prove I'm not bullshitting you. It looks even better than the last pic now, but I'm in the desert and can't take new ones.

Crude looking & freshly welded


Cleaned up after some more time


Sorry for bugging in on your thread OP!

G WOOD82

ok dude i don't know what you are proving. You are talking bottom of the line everything. And a log style manifold?? Garbage!!! You will not hit 350-400 hp with that set up on a cobalt. I'd give you 320-350 max on a friendly dyno.

And this wasn't just for you. Ok lets go for a normal joe on here. Welding skills they would have zero, injectors i'll give you that you have them but they still cost you money. HPT that cost you 600 or more depending on your version. So like i said thats 3 grand right there dude. It's almost a thousand just for HPT and injectors. So for you and people like me that's ok but not for everyone.

Don't forget you are still using the stock intake manifold which is horrible for making big horsepower numbers.

memphisr24

Why didn't you go with the internally wastegated gt30? Is it better to go the external route?

He's proving that you can make a cheap turbo kit. I don't see him proclaiming it's the best quality kit in the world, however, all those parts should work somewhat well

2K5SS/SC?

Yeah, I'm not claiming the best kit in the world, but I'm not talking cheap no-name parts either. The EVO III 16g is a tried and proven turbo amongst the DSM crowd for well into the 375-400+whp range. Just because it's not ball bearing, doesn't mean it won't do the job. Also, a log style mani will go quite a long way. I bet I could get full spool by 3750 the latest with that setup too. Plus, the average Joe looking to swap for a turbo probably has already got the HPTuners and 60's from maxing out the blower anyhow. Hell, and exhaust shop could weld the charge/downpipe for another $100, and the tune could be had for around $250ish for that matter. 06black has made 380+whp on the stock manifold and all he did was gut the blower and work the inside a bit.

Basically, I was just showing people an alternative to get the same results. I'm not being a jerk here, I'm just trying to enlighten the masses to alternative thinking. By the way that "CHEAP" setup in my Integra laid down 213whp and 208wtrq (peak torque @ 3500rpms) at 11psi on a Mustang dyno tuned with just an SAFC! I never dyno'd it at 15psi, but it was a monster and that was when I had the small 16G turbo. Put it this way my buddies 300awhp WRX on the same dyno got walked by it. The new EVO III turbo, mani, clutch, and Hondata S300 will put me way past 300whp and trq too. Just wait and see.

06blackg85ss

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you can make over 350whp on a log style manifold...... I know, I've done it
and that was on my el cheapo ebay buld, cost me $1100 to builf the whole kit
(of course now I just spent 3g's on good parts lol)

BravoPuma6

badass pics man, ignore the hateing.....

any pics of the car itself?

2K5SS/SC?

I designed my "On Paper" Cobalt build based off your kit and 06Black's kit. You guys are the real innovators here, I'm just the little guy with devious thoughts for now....

06blackg85ss

iTrader: (1)

lol but devious thoughts is where it all begins my man.
btw you teggy's looking good.
Just wait til cobalt V3 is finished in the next 2 weeks.... (I'm wiating for the title for the jeep first, which btw is another member on here's lol)

BravoPuma6

cobalt v3? is that what ur callin it LOL

2K5SS/SC?

Cobalt V3 huh? I like it, sounds sharp! Yeah, I cannot wait to see the results. You have to beat 06Black to 400whp man! I know you can do it!

Check out my thread on it. I'm going to start the body work when I get back, so she's a bit rough still. I had to get a new door for it and still need to get a fender since a deer decided to hit my buddy when I let him drive it to work while his car was down. Luckily he does body work on American Lefrance firetrucks for a living so she'll be straight as an arrow soon enough. It will be badass when I'm done though.

Here's the story with pics:
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...roject+integra

Here's the videos:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bv7-a14fluc
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Abf7z-eI4IY

G WOOD82

thats funny that you mention 06black. I helped build that set up lol. That car was in my pole barn for 3 weeks. I know everything that is done to that car. And yes he made 388whp with a custom manifold not a log style. Yes he did it on a stock intake but that is it. So like i said after help building one kit already and we started with the log style and threw it in the trash cause it was ****. I know what it can put down. So trust me 350whp will be pushing it with what parts you listed from "Ebay" lol.

Area47

he's a goober anyways

06black

i knew you had to come in here and say somethin you SOB!

dont you have some nascar to watch? or like a sister to beat up

Garry is the single best manifold bolt "un-doer" in the whole world.

no doubt about this is my mind, if not for him and his dad my car would not be like it is today.
i also owe a few GM guys for some vary trick ideas, but thats a whole 'nother thread.

G WOOD82

Thanks B. My knuckles never felt the same again lol. And yes i agree with area 47 you are a goober lol.