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You have got to seriously be the biggest moron...
Obviously you have admitted defeat, by falling below standards just to try and prove a point, that you had miserably failed at doing. At first, i started off actually believing that you had some type of knowledge about these cars... As months went by, i became greatly ashamed.
I by no means am a tuner... I put my turbo kit on myself, which was my biggest feat... But I have no reason to call him a liar because he is running faster than me. I dont even know why you ask people for help, because everything that people try to tell you, you just shoot down with absurdly inaccurate comments, which just make you look like a complete moron.
It really boggles my mind how you can sit there and tell someone that they are lying about something for the sole fact that he is just faster than you... You remind me of sseiboi from the ss.com.
Obviously you have admitted defeat, by falling below standards just to try and prove a point, that you had miserably failed at doing. At first, i started off actually believing that you had some type of knowledge about these cars... As months went by, i became greatly ashamed.
I by no means am a tuner... I put my turbo kit on myself, which was my biggest feat... But I have no reason to call him a liar because he is running faster than me. I dont even know why you ask people for help, because everything that people try to tell you, you just shoot down with absurdly inaccurate comments, which just make you look like a complete moron.
It really boggles my mind how you can sit there and tell someone that they are lying about something for the sole fact that he is just faster than you... You remind me of sseiboi from the ss.com.
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You have got to seriously be the biggest moron...
Obviously you have admitted defeat, by falling below standards just to try and prove a point, that you had miserably failed at doing. At first, i started off actually believing that you had some type of knowledge about these cars... As months went by, i became greatly ashamed.
I by no means am a tuner... I put my turbo kit on myself, which was my biggest feat... But I have no reason to call him a liar because he is running faster than me. I dont even know why you ask people for help, because everything that people try to tell you, you just shoot down with absurdly inaccurate comments, which just make you look like a complete moron.
It really boggles my mind how you can sit there and tell someone that they are lying about something for the sole fact that he is just faster than you... You remind me of sseiboi from the ss.com.
Obviously you have admitted defeat, by falling below standards just to try and prove a point, that you had miserably failed at doing. At first, i started off actually believing that you had some type of knowledge about these cars... As months went by, i became greatly ashamed.
I by no means am a tuner... I put my turbo kit on myself, which was my biggest feat... But I have no reason to call him a liar because he is running faster than me. I dont even know why you ask people for help, because everything that people try to tell you, you just shoot down with absurdly inaccurate comments, which just make you look like a complete moron.
It really boggles my mind how you can sit there and tell someone that they are lying about something for the sole fact that he is just faster than you... You remind me of sseiboi from the ss.com.
Sorry Rodiumus but it's true man
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LOL at this thread.
Listen, the TVS is limited to around 300WHP. I've said it before and the dyno's of dozens and dozens of people prove it. Anyone saying differently is making excuses and talking about what you could do if you tuned it.
2nd, there is no such thing as a magic tune. Only people ignorant to the workings of a combustion engine who actually think there is a way to trick the PCM or program it to give you a bunch of power. There's only a few things that matter. AF ratio, timing, RPM, power adder. No magic guys.
3rd, Area runs nearly 100% meth in his 'meth injection'. At this point, you could just drain your gas, take off the meth kit and put alcohol in the tank. By doing this you can take advantage of it's high octane and cool burning nature to run more boost with the larger blower. The TVS is larger but you cannot use the boost because of KR issues on pump gas. Fix that and the TVS will make power (as will any larger power adder).
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
Listen, the TVS is limited to around 300WHP. I've said it before and the dyno's of dozens and dozens of people prove it. Anyone saying differently is making excuses and talking about what you could do if you tuned it.
2nd, there is no such thing as a magic tune. Only people ignorant to the workings of a combustion engine who actually think there is a way to trick the PCM or program it to give you a bunch of power. There's only a few things that matter. AF ratio, timing, RPM, power adder. No magic guys.
3rd, Area runs nearly 100% meth in his 'meth injection'. At this point, you could just drain your gas, take off the meth kit and put alcohol in the tank. By doing this you can take advantage of it's high octane and cool burning nature to run more boost with the larger blower. The TVS is larger but you cannot use the boost because of KR issues on pump gas. Fix that and the TVS will make power (as will any larger power adder).
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
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3rd, Area runs nearly 100% meth in his 'meth injection'. At this point, you could just drain your gas, take off the meth kit and put alcohol in the tank. By doing this you can take advantage of it's high octane and cool burning nature to run more boost with the larger blower. The TVS is larger but you cannot use the boost because of KR issues on pump gas. Fix that and the TVS will make power (as will any larger power adder).
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
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Listen, the TVS is limited to around 300WHP. I've said it before and the dyno's of dozens and dozens of people prove it. Anyone saying differently is making excuses and talking about what you could do if you tuned it.
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I have one of the lowest dyno numbers with this blower and I'm far from being "limited". My numbers were not on a dynojet. I had massive spark blowout above 5500 which I've since resolved. Just correcting the blowout alone I should be safely over 300 easy.
Another area that people neglect is the cylinder head itself, just doing that would yield a considerable amount of power. With a properly built engine I see no reason why this can't make 400+whp, which is far more than alot of turbo setups.
Another area that people neglect is the cylinder head itself, just doing that would yield a considerable amount of power. With a properly built engine I see no reason why this can't make 400+whp, which is far more than alot of turbo setups.
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No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
never mind found out for myself. turbos cant work at those levels....
and they arent allowed
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LOL at this thread.
Listen, the TVS is limited to around 300WHP. I've said it before and the dyno's of dozens and dozens of people prove it. Anyone saying differently is making excuses and talking about what you could do if you tuned it.
2nd, there is no such thing as a magic tune. Only people ignorant to the workings of a combustion engine who actually think there is a way to trick the PCM or program it to give you a bunch of power. There's only a few things that matter. AF ratio, timing, RPM, power adder. No magic guys.
3rd, Area runs nearly 100% meth in his 'meth injection'. At this point, you could just drain your gas, take off the meth kit and put alcohol in the tank. By doing this you can take advantage of it's high octane and cool burning nature to run more boost with the larger blower. The TVS is larger but you cannot use the boost because of KR issues on pump gas. Fix that and the TVS will make power (as will any larger power adder).
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
Listen, the TVS is limited to around 300WHP. I've said it before and the dyno's of dozens and dozens of people prove it. Anyone saying differently is making excuses and talking about what you could do if you tuned it.
2nd, there is no such thing as a magic tune. Only people ignorant to the workings of a combustion engine who actually think there is a way to trick the PCM or program it to give you a bunch of power. There's only a few things that matter. AF ratio, timing, RPM, power adder. No magic guys.
3rd, Area runs nearly 100% meth in his 'meth injection'. At this point, you could just drain your gas, take off the meth kit and put alcohol in the tank. By doing this you can take advantage of it's high octane and cool burning nature to run more boost with the larger blower. The TVS is larger but you cannot use the boost because of KR issues on pump gas. Fix that and the TVS will make power (as will any larger power adder).
No blower will ever compare to the power of a turbo. It's not physically possible because blowers are driven off the crank pulley robbing a lot of HP that turbos don't. Therefore a turbo, for the most part, will make more power at the same psi. As boost rises, the difference grows. By nature a turbo is more efficient than a blower making the charged temps cooler allowing more boost at the same octane.
2. this part confuses people severely. the key to it all.
3. winna! to a degree at least. by adding a smidge of water to the mix, you decrease the chance complete vaporization before it has a chance to hit the cylinders
i am not arguing. i am simply stating facts.
sanctioning rules
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