Heat Exchanger cut-a-away pics
02-06-2010, 10:51 PM
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ah ok i got it now, he may be taking jabs at ottp, that's why he won't post any words.
hey don't all the ZZP threads get deleted when people talk **** about them? so if ZZP is talking ****, shouldn't this thread be deleted too?
looks like a case of ZZP can dish it out, but they can't be man enough to have people's threads bashing zzp, left on the forum and not deleted.
hey don't all the ZZP threads get deleted when people talk **** about them? so if ZZP is talking ****, shouldn't this thread be deleted too?
looks like a case of ZZP can dish it out, but they can't be man enough to have people's threads bashing zzp, left on the forum and not deleted.
02-06-2010, 11:25 PM
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ah ok i got it now, he may be taking jabs at ottp, that's why he won't post any words.
hey don't all the ZZP threads get deleted when people talk **** about them? so if ZZP is talking ****, shouldn't this thread be deleted too?
looks like a case of ZZP can dish it out, but they can't be man enough to have people's threads bashing zzp, left on the forum and not deleted.
hey don't all the ZZP threads get deleted when people talk **** about them? so if ZZP is talking ****, shouldn't this thread be deleted too?
looks like a case of ZZP can dish it out, but they can't be man enough to have people's threads bashing zzp, left on the forum and not deleted.
I'm not saying any more on this subject.
02-07-2010, 10:04 PM
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Looks like ZZP does offer a bar and plate Heat exchanger. As stated the S1 and S2 look to be bar and plate. Well, people want cheap they get cheap. OTTP and ZZP are just giving people what they want I suppose. If a good one is too expensive, " just give me the generic equivelant" lol.
02-08-2010, 09:26 AM
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Looks like ZZP does offer a bar and plate Heat exchanger. As stated the S1 and S2 look to be bar and plate. Well, people want cheap they get cheap. OTTP and ZZP are just giving people what they want I suppose. If a good one is too expensive, " just give me the generic equivelant" lol.
Rippin said it: "want cheap they get cheap". And ZZP posted the information on their web site...good for them...
02-08-2010, 09:48 AM
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It's amazing how a picture of some products with no words can already cause so much hate and bashing...
Every thread I put up turns into a bitch fest and any type of 'bash' on a vendor will get deleted. So I figurd if I just put up pics of two heat exchangers, users can have the conversation themselves. You don't need me to explain the flaws of a design or the benefits of another when something is this noticeable. If I did point anything out, I'd just be called a liar by the haters anyway. For the newbs, you can get info from the more experienced members who can comment on the pros and cons of said items.
I've said before and stand by it. ZZP makes the best parts, producing the highest HP and fastest track times. When people want the best, they buy ZZP. When they want to brag about their mod list instead of their times/HP, they can buy other stuff.
Every thread I put up turns into a bitch fest and any type of 'bash' on a vendor will get deleted. So I figurd if I just put up pics of two heat exchangers, users can have the conversation themselves. You don't need me to explain the flaws of a design or the benefits of another when something is this noticeable. If I did point anything out, I'd just be called a liar by the haters anyway. For the newbs, you can get info from the more experienced members who can comment on the pros and cons of said items.
I've said before and stand by it. ZZP makes the best parts, producing the highest HP and fastest track times. When people want the best, they buy ZZP. When they want to brag about their mod list instead of their times/HP, they can buy other stuff.
02-08-2010, 09:54 AM
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For those of you who can't decipher the picture, this is what I make of it:
The left and top heat exchangers are the ZZP stage 1/2 and OTT core. It's bar and plate, as you can tell. It's interesting seeing the divider in the end tanks.
The ZZP stage 3 is on the right and end tank looks like it is sealed better (the partition, that is). There are also more passages on the ZZP stage 3 core, as you can tell.
The left and top heat exchangers are the ZZP stage 1/2 and OTT core. It's bar and plate, as you can tell. It's interesting seeing the divider in the end tanks.
The ZZP stage 3 is on the right and end tank looks like it is sealed better (the partition, that is). There are also more passages on the ZZP stage 3 core, as you can tell.
02-08-2010, 09:58 AM
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For those of you who can't decipher the picture, this is what I make of it:
The left and top heat exchangers are the ZZP stage 1/2 and OTT core. It's bar and plate, as you can tell. It's interesting seeing the division in the end tanks.
The ZZP stage 3 is on the right and end tank looks like it is sealed better (the divider, that is). There are also more passages on the ZZP stage 3 core, as you can tell.
The left and top heat exchangers are the ZZP stage 1/2 and OTT core. It's bar and plate, as you can tell. It's interesting seeing the division in the end tanks.
The ZZP stage 3 is on the right and end tank looks like it is sealed better (the divider, that is). There are also more passages on the ZZP stage 3 core, as you can tell.
02-08-2010, 10:08 AM
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there, now that this thread has been explained it is 10000 times better. connect what you said in post 44 under the pictures in post 1, clear the rest of the posts in this thread and then see what gets posted. thank you for putting up an explination
02-08-2010, 10:14 AM
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this is the reason you get bashed alot, you talk like zzp is the only company that produces a worthy product for our cars... where's your 9 second street ready cobalt?
02-08-2010, 10:18 AM
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What's the first rule of motorsports? Someone is always faster than you...
02-08-2010, 10:22 AM
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It's amazing how a picture of some products with no words can already cause so much hate and bashing...
Every thread I put up turns into a bitch fest and any type of 'bash' on a vendor will get deleted. So I figurd if I just put up pics of two heat exchangers, users can have the conversation themselves. You don't need me to explain the flaws of a design or the benefits of another when something is this noticeable. If I did point anything out, I'd just be called a liar by the haters anyway. For the newbs, you can get info from the more experienced members who can comment on the pros and cons of said items.
I've said before and stand by it. ZZP makes the best parts, producing the highest HP and fastest track times. When people want the best, they buy ZZP. When they want to brag about their mod list instead of their times/HP, they can buy other stuff.
Every thread I put up turns into a bitch fest and any type of 'bash' on a vendor will get deleted. So I figurd if I just put up pics of two heat exchangers, users can have the conversation themselves. You don't need me to explain the flaws of a design or the benefits of another when something is this noticeable. If I did point anything out, I'd just be called a liar by the haters anyway. For the newbs, you can get info from the more experienced members who can comment on the pros and cons of said items.
I've said before and stand by it. ZZP makes the best parts, producing the highest HP and fastest track times. When people want the best, they buy ZZP. When they want to brag about their mod list instead of their times/HP, they can buy other stuff.
Not all of your parts are brilliant: the 2 bolt downpipe is an example. But who cares? folks dont have to buy them.
This is not hating, its a fact: Whitfield and Ballard's fwd 'balts are much faster than any of your cars .
And some of us dont care about 1/4 mile times, road racing is more attractive. Come on.....