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Old 02-01-2007, 04:17 PM
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Old 02-01-2007, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
its not really overall power...its reliable power and consistant power from not raising your IAT2's over 160 thus having the PCM pull timing.. please read my posts... I pretty much spelled out what it does.
Yeah, 160 is the magic point. Keep your IAT2 <160 and you'll be fine. Back before I did the dual pass, even with 101 octane my car would get knock when the IAT2 got above 160-165. Now that I have both the dual pass and a cobra HE, on a 0-140 run the IAT2 gets up a to a MAX of 165-167. 1/4 mile or 3rd gear run, it will peak at like 115-120
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Im going to have to do the dual pass!
Old 02-01-2007, 07:22 PM
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GMP dual pass voids warnity with just the dual pass and not having the pcm and smaller stage III pulley?
Old 07-04-2007, 05:40 AM
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y? they would have to tell u y it voids ur warranty since it probably will have nothing to do with what they'll end up fixing if u take it in fot warranty. if anything it is saving the engine and heat is killing our engine and power and if u go on top end runs then it will not only pull timing it will open up ur boost bypass if it reaches 212 degrees and ur supercharger will only work at 90% until IAT2's come below 207 degrees then u will never reach 158(fuel cutoff) trust me i know how it feels to lose power after my boost selinoid opened up
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beat a dead horse much? jk.
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the CA one will fit without removing your ac condensor correct?
Old 07-04-2007, 07:47 AM
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could you hook your stock heat exchanger and CA heat exchanger both together??? just an idea, cause that should help you stay well below 160's.
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HMMM.. I'm running stock one and a cobra one, I don't know why you wouldn't run 2. I don't think the heat exchanger alone does lower IAT's much but the Dual pass will. When running the dual pass you may experience some heat soak in your coolant so the second heat exchanger will come into play and keep you coolant temps down.

With HP tuners you can run you after cooler pump all the time. When I'm at the track I leave my car on "ON" and the intake manifold stays cool to the touch and it sucks all of the heat out of the supercharger.

I'm thinking of doing a CO2 cooling system to soak my front mount before a run to get the coolant Cold and My IAT's very close to ambient.
Old 07-04-2007, 10:13 AM
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Whenever I get around to doing the cobra h/e I'll also be leaving on my stock one. It's kind of like when people hook up an automatic trans cooler. Some people take off the stock one and just use the new front mount style one. It works better then stock, but if you go through stock first to neutralize the temp a little then through the front one it'll be even cooler. Same way I recommend doing it with our heat exchangers.
Old 07-04-2007, 12:25 PM
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When its time for me to do these mods, its going to be option B dual pass install and another heat exchanger for me. Dual pass + extra res + another H/E = lowest IAT's without meth, CO2 or NO2

I think if money is a bitch, it will be dual pass installed first though. I need to get an interceptor so I can see the temp differences though!
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I have the dual pass setup and I never see over 165 167 even on back to back runs.
Old 07-04-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by shawns94
I have the dual pass setup and I never see over 165 167 even on back to back runs.
With just the stock heat exchanger or two?
Old 07-04-2007, 12:46 PM
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i see around 160ish at the end of 3rd at wot with my dual pass setup, temps dropped a bit when i wrapped the hoses, this is with a 2.7 , i hit 180 one night at the track after multiple runs and no cool time, im waiting for my cobat addiction heat exchanger, also doin water injection aswell.
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GM does not void the warranty for having a dual pass. When my car was at GM, the tech just wanted to know, who installed it and if i got th rest of the stage 3 kit. This is on an extended warranty no less, where ive heard they are much stricter with you on what u can do with your car.
Also, i would do Both HE and DPE...but to really get your moneys worth i would just do the DPE.
My iat2 dont break 135 at WOT.
I also opted for a custom option B and running something other than dexcool thru my intercooler system.
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the CA heat exchanger will fit no problem correct?
Old 07-04-2007, 01:36 PM
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where do u hook up the additional surge tank to?

Originally Posted by skymynx
the CA heat exchanger will fit no problem correct?
from sources, ive heard you disconnect one hose add another and conenct that hose back and mount it to the front and thats all u need to do, and you can also have the choice of keeping both together or removing the stock one completely i heard tops the install for the C/A one was like an hour

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Old 07-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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thanks thats great to hear hopefully mine will finally be in this week. prolly not since CAs been telling me "it will be in early next week" for over two months now but thats another story and i dont hold them to blame
Old 07-04-2007, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by skymynx
thanks thats great to hear hopefully mine will finally be in this week. prolly not since CAs been telling me "it will be in early next week" for over two months now but thats another story and i dont hold them to blame
dont worry man i bet kenny got it under control, hes awsome
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its not in kennys hands hes at the mercy of the manfactor. he can just tell me what they tell him and when they dont deliever and they havent been then they make kenny look bad and all of CA. like i said not there fault
Old 07-04-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skymynx
its not in kennys hands hes at the mercy of the manfactor. he can just tell me what they tell him and when they dont deliever and they havent been then they make kenny look bad and all of CA. like i said not there fault
no i know, thats y i said hes got it under control, always checking the manufacture to see when they will come in so kenny can tell his customers
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eh if you look at it like that then yea i guess hes got it in control i was hoping to hvae it this week before vacation at the jersey shore next week
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Originally Posted by skymynx
eh if you look at it like that then yea i guess hes got it in control i was hoping to hvae it this week before vacation at the jersey shore next week
ahh sometimes things take longer to come, i bet youll have it soon
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hope so i ordered it back in april and would have gone else where by now if i hadnt had good service before hand with these guys
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